Friday, June 14, 2019

Here's dialectic had w. prominent, pretended mud-slime spokesman, actually Jew-agent, K. Barrett....

Ltr To K. Barrett, Mud-Slime Agent For Jews
(Apollonian, 14 Jun 19)

Hello: I see now u seem to be doing well as u've made posts on ur blogs, so that's good. But when I ck'd ur one blog, truthjihadbook.blogspot.com, I noticed ur statement at the top, regarding "...a total commitment to the organization he founded, the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth."

And it occurred to me that now ur sudden silence regarding our prospective int-view recording may well be explained in way of this "Jewish" connection--a very dubious sign. For such "connection" immediately and naturally brings up serious questions as to ur basic integrity--and an answer to question regarding ur sudden, mysterious non-communication. "Truthjihad"?--didn't u know truth is anti-Semitic?--seriously--it's not a joke, and it has to do w. very basic tenets of their filthy religion/philosophy.

Seriously, Jews never acknowledge anything as truth unless it is officially pronounced by top Jews--such is nature of Jew, Judaism, "Oral Law Trad." and "midrash." Jews are extreme subjectivists, most practical and successful Satanists of all history, Jews always leading organized Satanism--haven't u noticed this simple fact? For if Satanism is the problem in general, Jews are the specific essence to it all--absolutely proven by simplest logic and analysis.

For there's no "good" Jew, any more than "good" psychopath (or Satanist, child-molester, etc.), and no decent person identifies as Jew, except if he admits he was born one racially but now utterly, totally rejects the religion/philosophy (religion is always at root philosophy). But as academic it's inevitable u'd be sucked-in to that sort of utterly compromised mentality--the very purpose of modern Jewified "edjumacation." Unfortunately, the danger is now the public suspects u're involved w. Jews, making gestures for them, even taking money--which must have occurred to u, but u un-wisely shrugged it off.

For why wouldn't an honest discussion upon Satanism cover the Jew-subject/issue?--at least in the e-mail discussion if not in digitally recorded text. Evidently, u finally figured it all out. For note my msg and analysis is really quite simple: (a) problem is Satanism, which people might accept (and probably already do) as mere buzz-word generality.

(b) But then I analyze it, Satanism, further, specifically, and exactly as extreme subjectivism. (c) U quail fm this subjectivism, and try to writing it off (as u noted) as mere "egotism," which is just more indulgence in buzz-word and generality. (d) Finally, I connect Satanism and subjectivism specifically to central-banking and fiat-currency which is the secret weapon Jews/Satanists make use of against the stupid, corrupted, hubristic, now over-populated goyim--our compatriots.

So we see now how u've been so effectively compartmentalized and marginalized by the Jews, the satanic masterminds. But at least for a few moments there u seemed to be genuinely interested in the subject, Satanism--this was/is a good sign. It seems to me ur greatest weakness is this compulsion u seem to have for abstractionizing--which people find difficult and irrelevant.

But I'd encourage u nonetheless that ur original impulse was what u should pursue regarding this extremely important issue of Satanism--it isn't mere egotism; it has to do w. basic philosophy--subjectivism vs. honesty and objective reality, necessary basis for any "truth," properly understood--extremely relevant to society and culture, not mere psychology. Further, it was and still is most useful and topical to examine this issue of Satanism as I've demonstrated. And I'd still be happy to help u thus lose all ur Jew "friends" and colleagues--u don't need them. U would be immediately banned fm Jew-tube and other closely-associated platforms--u could only post our discussion to independent sites like Bitchute.com. Take good care. A.


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Below-copied are previous msgs exchanged, serving as basis for above by ap.

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To: Kevin Barrett <truthjihad@gmail.com> Jun 4 at 2:29 AM

Thanks tremendously for ur guidance on these pt.s. I'm really looking for the essence to things, esp. regarding religion, and one thing I have come away with regarding Christianity is its anti-thematic nature to Pharisaism (Talmudism)--which Pharisaism absolutely rules the world presently.

I follow the analysis of M.A. Hoffman (RevisionistReview.blogspot.com) who expounds Judaist "midrash"--the Jew ideal of "interpretation" for the benefit and victory of Jews, who rather use God as their attack-dog and assassin, celebrating mass murder on "Passover" holyday and "Purim" extermination of Persian enemies by means of intrigue w. the Shah, etc., the Jew God being a war-God, mere tool of Jews, God's greatest creation and glory, according to Jews.

So, in analysis, Jews posit a SUBJECTIVE reality which they imagine they can manipulate, w. help of their slave, God, which God only exists for use of Jews, TRUTH (= Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6) being merely whatever the Jews (rabbis) say it is. Thus Jews imagine they'll just kill anyone who disagrees w. them--as they attempted against Christ (truth) who yet "resurrected" as one can't kill truth anymore than one can kill the objective reality upon which truth is necessarily based.

Note Satanism is, at root, simply extreme SUBJECTIVISM by which consciousness/mentality is source of reality, making the subject to be God, the creator. Jews then are simply most collectivist, organized subjectivists--making them most effective, most successful, practical SATANISTS--capable, by means of their sublime collectivism and organization to dominate the more "individualist," unorganized, random goyim.

So would u agree w. my analysis, above? And how then would u say Islam fits in? I always thought Islam featured "submission" in obedience to command of Allah. Thanks again for ur observations and advice.


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On Monday, June 3, 2019 10:49 PM, Kevin Barrett <truthjihad@gmail.com> wrote:

That’s a simplistic and misleading way of looking at it.

All religions and ideologies could likewise be reduced to “command and obedience” and it would likewise be misleading. (Communists are commanded to support the revolt of the workers, capitalists to accept the rule of the rich, Christians to believe Jesus is part of three-gods-in-one, etc.)

The essence of Islam is pure monotheism: ecstatic self-submission to the Divine Oneness. From that flows the renunciation of tyrannical egotism and insistence on truth and justice. All of the details, rituals, secondary beliefs, etc. are scaffolding for that larger essence.

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On Jun 3, 2019, at 8:38 PM, apollonian wrote:

Hello: I'm trying to contact K. Barrett who's Islamist, and I want to ask question about Islam, to wit, (a) isn't Islam simply a religion of command (and obedience), which one is required/commanded to BELIEVE?--because Allah, speaking through Muhammud, commands?

I'll leave it at that, regarding the essence of the religion. Thanks for ur time and effort on this query of mine, here, above. A.

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Below-copied by ap (Jun 4 at 11:08 AM) in response to mud-slime K. Barrett's of 4 Jun 2019
(Apollonian, 4 Jun 19)


Ok, thanks much for ur commentary. I've always taken the Christian position as emphasizing the objective reality--AGAINST the Pharisaic subjectivism. Given that basic Christian objectivity, Christ (= truth) goes on then to demonstrate the Christian ethic(s), based upon that metaphysical premise, objectivity.

Do u see Islam as further dialectic to this basic Christian vs. Pharisaic antitheses?--it seems to me that Islam is basically an attempted simplification, removing the Trinity. But now u seem to say Islam rather agrees more w. Pharisaist subjectivism.

Thus Christianity indicates determinism, absolute cause-effect, no perfectly "free" human will, humans doomed to sin in accord w. having their own will, but striving in reason (and Holy Spirit, in accord w. Christianity) to mitigate that willfulness to achieve much of Godly concord as possible. Thanks again for ur advice. A.

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On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 10:43 AM, Kevin Barrett <truthjihad@gmail.com> wrote:

I would phrase it differently.

"Note Satanism is, at root, simply extreme SUBJECTIVISM by which consciousness/mentality is source of reality, making the subject to be God, the creator." [This aforementioned quote is by ap in his ltr to Barrett, far above-copied, of 4 Jun 2:29 am.]

Consciousness IS the source of reality. But the human ego is only a tiny fragment of consciousness, all of which emanates from God. Life is a test in which we are being graded on our ability to relinquish/annihilate our ego and the evil it commands, in a kind of submission to God that moves us closer to God-consciousness and away from ego-consciousness.

The Jewish elite analyzed in Guyénot’s From Yahweh to Zion worships its own ego—Yahweh is a projection of the Jewish tribal ego—rather than relinquishing ego in submission to God. Their approach is indeed satanic.

Best, Kevin [preceding by Barrett is response to ap's above-copied msg of 4 Jun, 2:29 am]


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Continuing dialectic btwn Barrett and apollonian, Jun 4 at 10:20 PM


Yes, I understand the "Sunnis" are more determinist than the "Shias" who are more mystic, holding to a greater "freedom" of human will (if I'm not mistaking). But I still struggle to see how Islam fits in the dialectic, the Satanists led by Jews holding to extreme subjectivism against Christian objectivity and TRUTH (the God-created objective reality being criterion for such truth). Thus as Christians worship Christ, they worship truth. Christianity can actually be understood as worship of truth.

But if everything is subjective, as it seems u indicate regarding Islam, then "submission" and obedience to command of Allah, transmitted through Muhammad, would seem to be decisive ideal or principle of Islam--which would seem to make Islam mere version of Judaist subjectivism (Jews merely insisting one follow the rabbis' "midrash" interpretation). And the rejection of "Trinity" would then become mere detail and pretext in face of this more fundamental objective vs. subjective dichotomy which so radically differentiates Jew vs. Christian. Thanks as always for ur clarifications on these pt.s.

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On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:33 PM, Kevin Barrett <truthjihad@gmail.com> wrote:

God’s consciousness is not “subjective." God is THE Truth, al-haqq. Human consciousness is vastly less than that.

Muslims have debated free will vs. predestination for a very long time with no clear winner.

This part also describes Muslims even though the term “holy spirit” isn’t used:

"...striving in reason (and Holy Spirit, in accord w. Christianity) to mitigate that willfulness to achieve much of Godly concord as possible." Amin! [preceding quote is fm ap's msg of Jun 4, 2019, at 11:08 AM]

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Ltr fm ap to Mud-slime, Barrett of Jun 8 at 1:23 AM
Hello: After thinking about our discussion earlier this week, I thought to bring up some questions/issues for ur consideration.

1. Isn't it at least legitimate, even really quite clear, question regarding Satanism as running rampant in our world, so much causing horrendous problems as we find ourselves facing?--and there are lots of instances I submit we could pt. out for examples well indicating this outright Satanism, but esp. regarding (a) the homosexuals and trans-genders and their increasing political power and influence; (b) the Agenda-21 and -2030 "pop.-reduction," (c) and the far too powerful corp.s so effectively forcing poison drugs and poison vaccines upon the people, (d) including their glyphosate poisoning and contamination of food supply, etc.

2. But then there's issue identifying exactly what this Satanism is, how it works, etc. If u ck my previous notes to u on this Satanist subject, u'll see I analyze it as extreme subjectivism--I wonder what ur comments would be on this basic subject-matter regarding Satanism. I suspect u'd be able to supply some useful commentary. And u'll note extreme subjectivism, hence then Satanism, is actually quite a philosophic issue, not even so exclusively "religious"--it (Satanism) then affects things psychologically and politically, as we see.

3. I do believe u and both of us (at least we two, but there might be others who also could comment usefully in addition) might present some compelling and enlightening commentary, u coming fm ur Islamic view-point, me fm Christian. I'm sure lots of people would be interested in ur somewhat unusual (Islamic) perspective, given the typical Christian-orientation of so many here in USA, not so familiar w. the Islamic pt. of view on things.

4. For myself, I know I would comment upon the corruption within the Christian world, so many (pretended) Christians (including esp. the outright heretics known as "Judeo-Christian," and "Christian-Zionist") supporting terror-state of Israel, lying, saying 'Christ was "Jew,"' and other false and highly inaccurate things. For note how any "religion" starts upon basic philosophic premises--Christian objectivity vs. Jew subjectivism, for example.

5. I do believe we, u and I, at least, but quite possibly others too (I can think of some right off-hand) might very well be able to have a useful and informative discussion for benefit of many others in the world who would be interested in hearing such a discussion by such as us to help begin and to stimulate serious consideration of this crucial subject-matter--the gross, horrendous satanic activity and mentality that threatens our world and people. I submit the sooner we could begin this kind of discussion, leading to greater consideration the better it would be for the world.

Thanks much for ur consideration of the pt.s I bring-up here, above. Take good care, A.

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Continuing dialectic w. mud-slime, Barrett, Jun 8 at 10:50 AM
Hello, and thanks much for ur reply. Before I would venture to record anything, I'd first have to examine things for definitions (at least), as u've said some things which I need to understand in more, better detail for purposes of discussion. But otherwise, I'd be absolutely happy to record discussion, thanks to u so kindly--I just want to be sure we were/are speaking in terms we mutually understand for the good and use of audience/listeners.

For if we want to discuss things for people in useful manner, we'd have to agree at least generally upon such thing as Satanism, what it is, how it works--we've surely done well for starting, but I think we need to go a little further for details in order to be of serious use for listeners/audience. U've already thrown me, a little bit at least, for ur use of "materialism," ESP, and "quantum processes," just for starters.

Satan (the supreme LIAR), of course, is one who insists HE'S God, and should be worshipped--would u agree?--and how, more exactly would u see this issue regarding satan? I know, pretty surely, that Christians see things as I just noted--maybe not so much regarding subjectivism (a somewhat philosophic-type notion) which might well take a little explaining as for what it is. Religion begins w. basic philosophic tenets--would u agree?

I also have to admit that I'm sure Christians would not at all accept this phrase, "quantum processes," as it's just a buzz-phrase for them (as I have to admit it is for me)--it would need definition which would still be rejected for practical purposes, I suspect. The DANGER is getting off into vague abstractions which will LOSE most listeners/audience to our discussion.

ESP could be understood, though, but as Christian I wouldn't want to tax fellow Christians for their toleration of such abstract notion. I hope u can see my wariness for abstractions, my striving to keeping things simple as possible, as at basic concrete kind of level.

I'm also not sure what u mean exactly by "materialism"--aside fm the basic Greek understanding as that which is tangible to sense-perception, touch, sight, hearing, etc.--how could it be "satanic"?--I think it much better for us to thrash these things out so as to be best prepared for useful discussion for listeners/audience--and I hope I'm not being too dense for u.

Note Christians and Islamics have a common heritage for understanding things in basic Aristotelian/Platonic terms, as Islamic culture helped a great deal to preserving and understanding Aristotle, for example, Thomas Aquinas quoting Avicenna and Ibn Rusheed for his (Aquinas's) own exposition.

Thus I (and most Christians I know) keep to the basic Greek/Aristotelian understanding for the "objective" assumption being a world that exists outside our consciousness, purpose of consciousness being to grasp such objective reality by means of perception and then logical reasoning and abstraction. I and most Christians don't accept that consciousness could possibly create reality--perhaps u're understanding things in a way we're over-looking. I WILL ck-out ur ref. to Revusky, for sure.

I don't want to tax ur kind patience, but be sure that I accept ur offer to record a discussion; it's just I sincerely think it best for us to be certain as possible for mutual understanding of basic terms--rather than having to thrashing things out over the air, so to speak. By all means let me know how u see and understand things, beginning w. this crucial, basic subject of Satanism which is destroying our (political) world before our very eyes. Thanks again, A.

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On Saturday, June 8, 2019 8:27 AM, Kevin Barrett <truthjihad@gmail.com> wrote:

This might make a good topic for my radio show. Could you pre-record a show tomorrow or Monday? What times could work?

I wouldn’t equate Satanism with subjectivism per se. Satanism is extreme egotism—rebelling against God and instead worshipping one’s own ego and its base desires.

Materialism, which is an extreme form of objectivism, is satanic. Since the demise of Christianity as our main social anchor, Western elites have adapted a worldview that is both Satanic and materialistic. I call it secular-materialist progressivist humanism. Jon Revusky calls it ARRF: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/28/arrf/

The high priests of this Satanic elite will figuratively burn you at the stake if you tell them that reality is basically subjective, that ESP is real, consciousness creates reality through quantum processes, etc. and that as a result of this aspect of God’s scheme of things, the universe is absolutely just, and we all get exactly what we deserve. These perennial truths undermine the materialism (and subsequent moral relativism) that is central to their false, Satanic religion.

Best, Kevin

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Below-copied by ap to Barrett at Jun 8 at 12:43 PM
Ok, sure, I guess we could do that Socratic-method, 30 mins (or so) for either side. BUT then I'd have to take at least a few moments to collect my thoughts as to what questions I'd have. For present though, I think we're making good progress, and I'm happy to say u seem to be on same page as myself regarding this crucial issue of Satanism. Most of all, I strongly suspect and believe, we, u and I, should focus upon this subject of Satanism--esp. for sake of our listeners/audience. The more we can converge upon this Satanism, the better--would u agree?

I know for myself that my fellow Christians DO NOT seem to take it (Satanism) seriously enough--and especially to understanding it in specific terms--which I submit is best grasped by means of that idea of extreme subjectivism, presumption of mere consciousness, pretending to creating what only God could create--i.e. that objective, including "material," reality which we assume exists, which we perceive, even though there may well be aspects of it we're not aware of at the moment--we're not omniscient.

Another good thing is ur excellent and scholarly ref. to Quran--we Christians, many of us at any rate, much appreciate to knowing what and how the other religions and religious think and understand, and I much commend u for such note u make for us--it's authoritative too, u know, and thus we can more easily understand u're not just making stuff up out of thin air. By all means, I hope u never hesitate to challenge me for anything I say regarding Christianity, u never hesitating to demanding a specific ref. as u consider appropriate or necessary.

Thanks also for explaining ur understanding of materialism. We Christians of course concede there's stuff we don't yet understand (or "see"), but existence must be at least POTENTIALLY understandable, under some conceivable circumstance, otherwise there's no basis (or evidence) for saying something exists--though it (whatever) COULD exist.

Regarding "Renaissance magic and Cabala," u may be assured we fairly well understand Renaissance, in general, BUT anything about "magic" or "Cabala" is YOUR obligation for specific exposition and designation to be made in specific, concrete terms as possible. Every age deals w. superstition, etc., and "Cabala" is by definition mystic in nature which mysticism Christians typically hold in contempt, I hope u can understand.

So u see, by (extreme) subjectivism I'm referring to a lie, or lying which exists ONLY in the mind of the liar (or subjectivist who's making it all up fm his own perspective), BUT who yet insists nonetheless that it's true because he merely wants it to be true--greatest example and pretext of this lying (most often in guise of wishful-thinking, as of children who don't know any better) is "good-evil" by which liars want to pretend they're better than others.

For note we Christians believe we're all sinners who are DOOMED, requiring God's mercy and grace for salvation. Human will is NOT perfectly "free," but God creates us as necessarily, ineluctably self-interested, oriented towards self-preservation no less than all the other animals--such is the nature of that sort of "will" that we do possess--again, we're all sinners, always have been, always will be.

I think we're herewith making excellent progress setting-up for best kind of informed, but not presumptuous, discussion/dialectic for benefit of our listeners/audience who are tired of empty theorizing and abstractions, who yearn for a grasp of things that can be easily shared, verifiable and CONCRETE as possible, to be shared easily among all, old and young--NOT requiring too much sophistication--beginning w. Satanism, KEY concept (not too abstract), yet most informative, useful, and crucial.

Thus Satanism is extreme subjectivism making oneself (the subject) to be God, the creator. Jews then are most effective, practical, and successful COLLECTIVIST subjectivists (liars) most sublimely, most integrally organized. This last is most practical conclusion to be (eventually) presented to listeners/audience, all based upon solid premise we've established regarding Satanism--can we agree? Thanks, Sincerely, A.


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On Saturday, June 8, 2019 11:05 AM, Kevin Barrett <truthjihad@gmail.com> wrote:

After the Fatiha, the Qur’an begins:

"This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for the God-conscious

who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and generously give/spend from what We have provided.” So the first characteristic of the God-conscious is believing in the unseen.

The crucial importance of ‘alam al-ghayb, the unseen dimension of reality, i.e. the part not available to our senses, is a top Qur’anic priority. Materialism denies this crucial dimension of reality. I suspect modern scientistic materialism was designed and imposed by Satanic magicians to keep the sheeple ignorant and easy to fleece. Study the history of Renaissance magic and Kabbala for details.

As for Satan, yes, he’s the ultimate egotist, the ultimate liar, the ultimate arrogant braggart who tries to substitute himself for God. The magicians who want to rule the world themselves, rather than submit to God’s rule, are satanic.

I think the best way to have this discussion would be as an audio (radio) dialogue in which we could ask each other Socratic questions so as to better understand each other. Maybe 30 minutes of you questioning me, then 30 minutes of vice-versa?

Best, Kevin

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Here's ltr by ap to Barrett of 9 Jun Jun 9 at 1:21 AM, after Barrett broke off dialectic

Thus now to sum-up fm previous expositions and notes, we see the Christian-rationalist view for things having now become absolutely satanic--the problem of sociology, politics, and economics we're presently facing.

For as reality is objective, human consciousness merely designed to observe and perceive this objective reality, we see then reality is DETERMINED according to absolute cause-effect, there being no perfectly "free" will, humans being sinners, always working for their interest, creatures of will--all this in accord w. God's will.

But now as humans strive at the beginning stages of civilization, they start in honesty and simplicity, keeping and maintaining that objectivistic mental orientation. However, as we see fm Roman example in history (also now the American-Western instance) we observe the original generations are honest and forthright having to work and fight for victory and production.

But as the original generations are successful, the following generations who inherit steadily become HUBRISTIC, pretending evermore to subjectivism, pretending now to non-existent perfectly "free-will," hubristic "good-evil" and false "moral virtue," thus corruption--as we see fm Roman example, and now presently in USA.

Thus note, given the objective, hence determinist nature of reality, including humanity, observe the great CYCLIC history which takes place, the human society beginning in honest, objectivistic manner, but steadily, inevitably becoming corrupt and hubristic--as we see happening now in USA, the people and culture becoming not only hubristic, but now down-right satanic, indulging as they do in subjectivism, pretending they're "good" and "morally virtuous," but utterly corrupt, the culture now imperialist, constantly engaged in warfare--as we see.

A critical event takes place when the culture and people adopt fiat-currency and central-banking by which real money, like gold-silver, is thrown aside in stead of present fiat-CURRENCY which is generated practically to infinite amount (constant "inflation"), the currency steadily losing value, the people despoiled, defrauded, and destroyed--as we see.

By means of this fiat-currency and central-banking, a satanic regime is thus empowered, in absolute control of things, beginning w. the monopolist central-banking and fiat-currency, and enforced by means of such as the corp. mass-media, the corrupted leadership of the religious establishment, the publically funded "edjumacation," etc.

Thus the culture is doomed to inevitable horrific, catastrophic collapse as when the currency and economy collapse--but always steered as things happen for the benefit and profit of the top satanic masterminds who keep the people distracted by means of constant warfare and "bread and circuses," football games, and food-stamps, etc.

Such then is the determinist, CYCLIC way of reality and history, including economics, politics, and human psychology, civilizations and cultures rising-up, but then inevitably collapsing in hubris, corruption and Satanism--and we're presently and plainly in the stage of Satanism and impending collapse. A.