Below-copied by ap first submitted at comments, http://www.unz.com/pgottfried/the-de...tism/#comments
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But Jilles, what then would be meaning of Declaration of Independence?--it's same as "Declaration of Secession." States are sovereign, PERIOD--sovereignty cannot be alienated. Union had only delegated powers. Union had no sovereignty but what was GIVEN ("DELEGATED") to it; Confederates withdrew those delegated powers.
Note there were books written on the subject of sovereignty and right of secession, as by Abel P. Upshur, "A Brief Enquiry into the Nature and Character of our Federal Government: Being a Review of Judge Story's Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States."
Andrew Jackson--a real psycho--vowed to go to war w. S. Carolina in 1830, and wanted to hang John C. Calhoun who demonstrated the right of states to nullify--and to secede if necessary--this by Calhoun was in addition to Jefferson and Madison's expositions upon nullification which were published in the late 18th cent.
Jackson's "Proclamation" (actually written by Ed Livingston, the Sec. of State) was torn to shreds by Littleton Waller Tazewell's "A Review of the Proclamation of President Jackson."
Remember, a state's dispute w. other states has no higher tribunal--state has right to nullify on its own authority--as union was mere creation of states. And "Supreme Court" is a biased partisan of the "federal" network, totally compromised in prejudice towards union, not competent to bindingly decide what the Const. means or says regarding nullification and secession--no more competent than any other opinion--and this was made clear by Jefferson and Madison.
Don't forget union and Sup. ct. are SERVANTS, "AGENTS," and subordinate to the states which made the Constitution no less than Articles of Confederation.
It's great thing that "Brexit" and nationalism of Trump vs. "globalist" genocidal dictatorship--as of "Agenda-21 and -2030" "pop. reduction," have now come up, giving people excellent food for thought. Morons who pretend states are NOT sovereign are effectively saying states gave up their sovereignty to become slaves or serfs, or mere provinces of a greater, imperial power--which is absurd and cannot be found anywhere in any document, though these brainless fools insist it's "implied," like Joseph Story, the Sup. ct. justice.
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jilles dykstra says:
December 23, 2018 at 7:07 am GMT • 100 Words
@apollonian
The right of leaving ?
Although it seems to be an art 51 somewhere in EU regulations, the right to leave, Brussels does anything to prevent that after leaving the EU the British have better lives than when still in the EU.
These kinds of rights, just words on paper.
Already in 1918 Wilson formulated self determination, what did not exist in the USA.
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Declaration Of Independence MEANS Something,
Suckers--Get A Clue
(Apollonian, 23 Dec 18)
(Apollonian, 23 Dec 18)
But Jilles, what then would be meaning of Declaration of Independence?--it's same as "Declaration of Secession." States are sovereign, PERIOD--sovereignty cannot be alienated. Union had only delegated powers. Union had no sovereignty but what was GIVEN ("DELEGATED") to it; Confederates withdrew those delegated powers.
Note there were books written on the subject of sovereignty and right of secession, as by Abel P. Upshur, "A Brief Enquiry into the Nature and Character of our Federal Government: Being a Review of Judge Story's Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States."
Andrew Jackson--a real psycho--vowed to go to war w. S. Carolina in 1830, and wanted to hang John C. Calhoun who demonstrated the right of states to nullify--and to secede if necessary--this by Calhoun was in addition to Jefferson and Madison's expositions upon nullification which were published in the late 18th cent.
Jackson's "Proclamation" (actually written by Ed Livingston, the Sec. of State) was torn to shreds by Littleton Waller Tazewell's "A Review of the Proclamation of President Jackson."
Remember, a state's dispute w. other states has no higher tribunal--state has right to nullify on its own authority--as union was mere creation of states. And "Supreme Court" is a biased partisan of the "federal" network, totally compromised in prejudice towards union, not competent to bindingly decide what the Const. means or says regarding nullification and secession--no more competent than any other opinion--and this was made clear by Jefferson and Madison.
Don't forget union and Sup. ct. are SERVANTS, "AGENTS," and subordinate to the states which made the Constitution no less than Articles of Confederation.
It's great thing that "Brexit" and nationalism of Trump vs. "globalist" genocidal dictatorship--as of "Agenda-21 and -2030" "pop. reduction," have now come up, giving people excellent food for thought. Morons who pretend states are NOT sovereign are effectively saying states gave up their sovereignty to become slaves or serfs, or mere provinces of a greater, imperial power--which is absurd and cannot be found anywhere in any document, though these brainless fools insist it's "implied," like Joseph Story, the Sup. ct. justice.
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jilles dykstra says:
December 23, 2018 at 7:07 am GMT • 100 Words
@apollonian
The right of leaving ?
Although it seems to be an art 51 somewhere in EU regulations, the right to leave, Brussels does anything to prevent that after leaving the EU the British have better lives than when still in the EU.
These kinds of rights, just words on paper.
Already in 1918 Wilson formulated self determination, what did not exist in the USA.
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