Holohoax: a monument to lies, lying, liars--Jews, who simply fill a perfectly understood socio-biologic place and function....

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Jews And Satanists: Function Of Cyclic History, Socio-Biology–A Parasite Disease
(Apollonian, 30 Jan 19)

Ho ho ho ho oho–what?–poor Jews?–well, they KNOW they’ve ALWAYS been hated (they actually love it)–except only (and only temporarily) by those Jews are paying-off, that’s all, ho ho ho ho. Further, hatred of Jews merely encourages Jews to a greater loyalty and cohesion among themselves–as original “Zionist,” T. Herzl, pt’d out long ago.

And don’t forget: as long as there are such tremendous crowds, masses, and groups of over-populated, stupid gentiles (TV-addicted, “progressives,” “liberals,” “leftists,” and fashion-following homosexuals)–as we obviously have–Jews are perfectly safe. Observe the MILLIONS of “Judeo-Christians” (JCs–see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo) who pretend and insist “Christ was Jew,” and support terror-state of Israel.

And we GOTTA have Jews, as unc’ Adolf said–“for if we didn’t have them, we’d have to invent them,” ho ho ho ho ho–we HAVE to have Jews to reduce the excess numbers and masses of over-populated, stupid gentiles, after all.

Most of all, and closest to the pt.: observe that it’s all simply a battle of balance btwn Christian TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6) vs. Jew/satanic lies (JOHN 8:44)–or truth vs. lies (objective reality vs. subjectivism), if thou want to keep out the “religion,” hoh o ho oh ho. And the great sociologic culture of lies is BUILT upon the central-banking system (legalized counterfeiting–see Mises.org for expo; use their site search-engine for particular terms) which allows Satanists/Jews to dominate and rule the masses of moronic, over-populated gentiles who are soooooo incredibly, un-endingly stupid, I’m surprised they can continue to walk on two feet.

To demonstrate how stupid the (over-populated) puke really are, just ask them, “what is MONEY”?–and thou will quickly observe the horrible, sad facts proving how abysmally, hopelessly stupid these masses of purest scum really are–duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. For subject of MONEY, simple as it might seem at first, really is ABSTRACT, and 90 % of people don’t know behinds fm holes-in-ground when it comes to such abstractions, poor, brainless scum–but they insist they should have right to vote, hoh oho ho ho ho.

Finally, note the REAL PROBLEM is the culture of lies, lying, and liars–and EVEN if we got rid of all the kikes, they’d just arise again in the near future, once the stupid gentiles increased in yet more over-population, thou can be sure, worshipping lies, insisting reality is ONLY what the rabbis say it is.

So it’s a CYCLIC problem, thou see–when things get prosperous, and gentiles become over-populated, HUBRIS prevailing, leading to Satanism, Jews (or their satanist equivalent) arise naturally–like a socio-biologic disease–but which is necessary given the circumstances of over-populated morons and excessive stupidity.

People have to GRASP the specific fact of SATANISM, the specific problem for nature of culture--only then can they begin to search for solution....

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People Must Face-Up To OBVIOUS Problem: SATANIC, Spenglerian "Decline Of West," Dominated By Foremost Satanists, Jews
(Apollonian, 25 Jan 19)

Utu, buddy: fascism is, by definition, simply rather mindless FORCE without law--against law and legal due process, for example. Fascism is simply a rationalized, totally contrived tyranny upon the excuse it's better than Jew-bolshevism--which historically, has nearly always turned out to be true, actually. In fact, some fascist govenments were excused and justified by the allegation that it was necessary to prevent bolshevism or communism.

Fascists, including the Italians, later, after they'd installed themselves, attempted to rationalize their system in make-shift style and manner. Italian fascism was desperate counter against bolshevism which bolshevism at least had a Marxian ideology, clap-trap as it was, to under-pin it's savagery and mass-murder. But Mussolini's fascism was just as totalitarian, collectivistic, and featured practical socialism for actual political program--and in the end didn't really solve anything, merely a prelude to further socialist statism and tyranny.

Thou must realize what's actually presently working: a DELIBERATE, calculated satanic program, led and applied by the foremost Satanists, JEWS (see Talmudical.blogspot.com, RevisionistReview.blogspot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for expo on Judaism), at the top, the central-bankers working w. their fiat-currencies, literally legalized counterfeiting. See Mises.org for expo on central-banking; use their site search-engine for particular terms.

Note the Satanism is program of world-gov. dictatorship of United Nations, explicitly pushing Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE ("population-reduction"). What then specifically is Satanism?--it's extreme subjectivism, the idea mentality/consciousness is source of "reality," making the subject to be God, the creator--satanism by definition.

So therefore, the people, of all races, actually, need to embrace an explicitly anti-satanic program, and historically, there is a bright, shining example of such successful anti-satanic movement--the REAL, original Christianity founded upon worship of TRUTH (see Gosp. JOHN 14:6), above all--against satanic/Jew lies (JOHN 8:44).

Unfortunately Jews and Israel presently control all the establishment Christian organizations, Protestant and Catholic, esp. by means of the central-bank, a criminal enterprise and monopoly controlled by Jews which corrupt and phony "Christian" organizations now pretend Christianity is about such moronic precepts as "love," or "faith" of "beeeleeeeeevin'," etc.

A large group of these phony Christians, the "Judeo-Christians" (JCs--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo), are actually even among the foremost supporters of the terror-state of Israel, lying and saying "Christ was Jew," etc. Such then is the "Tower of Babel" cultural chaos now exploited by these satanists and Jews.

So thou sees the very problem, presently, is a Jew-friendly, Jew-oriented and -controlled satanic culture and ethos, enforced by a satanic fascism. Thus a revived Christianity featuring the real Christian ideal, TRUTH, hence the objective reality, necessary basis of any meaningful truth, is the only workable, fruitful, indicated solution--against the nearly explicit subjectivists, Satanists and Jews.


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# 5, utu says:Next New Comment
January 25, 2019 at 6:00 am GMT • 100 Words

Fascism is not a bad thing. Mussolini got it almost right. Few weeks ago I wrote a comment that a populist movement that can bring the left and the right together is the only solution.

The movement must be populist that folds the left and right together against the cosmopolitan middle that consists of the economic neoliberal right and the cultural left. The nationalism must be its glue and the enemy (there always must be an enemy) the financial international elite. Anyway you cut it it will be some sort of fascism.

Well, we KNOW already fm Homer, life sucks, and so we can readily appreciate the nihilism of Cioran....

Below-copied by ap first submitted, but not even accepted for "moderation" as I was BANNED by kike, Unz, ho ho ho ho ho--at comments, http://www.unz.com/gdurocher/cioran-...pean-nihilism/

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Nihilism Of Cyclic History, Not Essentially Different FM Cioran
(Apollonian, 25 Jan 19)

Yes, Cioran's nihilism isn't much diff. fm Spengler's "Decline of the West," and CYCLIC theory of hist.

For Spengler thus indicates great as things might be in the glorious civilization, yet it will corrupt and decline in the CYCLIC process, and now we see exactly how that corruption is, in all the putrid details, the Israeli terror-state, tail, wagging the USA dog, murdering USA citizens at will, as in 9/11, but not worrying, as Jews control the central-bank legalized counterfeiting machine and monopoly, thus all the other monopolies, the stupid gentiles not caring, few of them noticing, or thinking about the horrific consequences.

Thus the gentiles build, but at same time, they produce too many inferiors and weaklings among their off-spring, who adopt subjectivism, then extreme subjectivism and Satanism, and the entire great edifice of pretended civilization must crash-down, Jews foremost subjectivists/satanists leading the corruption and down-fall, yet the mystified, moronic goons not able to figure it all out.

So we conclude Jews are like a disease which ultimately destroys the horrendously corrupt culture, now a putrid Tower-of-Babel chaos, the satanists and Jews the only ones maintaining cohesion, the rest of the poor morons and over-populated fools, suckers, goons, and scum, not comprehending.

And even if we or someone was able to exterminate these infernal monsters, called Jews, fact is they or someone else would merely re-arise, eventually, practicing a similar sort of extreme subjectivism, including the perfectly "free" will and pursuing non-existent "good-evil, and the inevitable Spenglerian "decline" would happen again.

Thus we observe the socio-biologic function of Jews: like a disease, like typhus or plague, they reduce the population of gentile weaklings and inferiors who were generated through the yrs and period of prosperity, eventually bringing the horrific corruption to an end so the CYCLE can start again.

Place of Jews?--they're foremost subjectivists, like a disease, who help to reduce the over-population of once prosperous, but now corrupt culture, per Spengler....

Below-copied by ap submitted, but CENSORED/deleted by kike, Unz, at comments, http://www.unz.com/tsaker/russia-isr...ruth/#comments

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CYCLIC Nature Of History In Determined Universe--There's NO Perfectly "Free" Will, Suckers
(Apollonian, 24 Jan 19)

Well see, imagine OVER-POPULATION--we have it right before our eyes--who are they?--the over-populated?--they're the "liberals," "leftists," "progressives," all of these stupid scum who "beeeeeleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev" in non-existent "good-evil" and a perfectly "free" human will capable of changing reality, like God, and achieving "good," for example.

And these "leftist," "liberal" scum "beeeeeeeeeeleeeeeeeeeeeeeeev" NO LESS than the Christians they like to make fun of for their own "beeeeeeeeeleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevin'." "Good-evil" exists because why?--they "beeeeleeeeeeev" it does, therefore it does. The philosopher, Immanuel Kant invented the "noumenal" world wherein there was "moral virtue"--having to do w. "duty."

Anyway, eventually any civilization generates just toooo goddam many of these scum who imagine they create reality by means of this idiot "beeleeeeeeeeevin'"--extreme subjectivism, the subject made the God-like creator of reality--leading to outright SATANISM--this is where we are now, suckers, can't thou see?

So then we get Jews who are like a disease, and they capture--or captivate--these "beeeeleeeeeevers" so that we get what we have presently--perpetual war for perp. peace.

See, at the first, there are just basically HONEST people who accept the OBJECTIVE (Aristotelian) reality, and they lay the foundations for real civilization, featuring HONEST money, hence gold/silver only, basic property rights, rule-of-law, sanctity of contract, etc.--and thus the civilization grows, the people have families, and so it goes UNTIL the culture begins to corrupting, as Oswald Spengler lays it out in "Decline of the West," the formerly HONEST people now becoming evermore dis-honest, and far less respectful and observant of the OBJECTIVE reality, which is quite deterministic (absolute cause-effect, no perfectly "free" will).

So EVENTUALLY, there just gets to being too goddam many of these dis-honest scum pretending to non-existent "good-evil" and perfectly "free" will, for example, as we see, they start w. the "social-spending" and socialism, little at first, but more and more over time. And finally, the end of prosperity begins when the society goes in for the CENTRAL-BANK, legalized counterfeiting, issuing of nearly infinite fiat currency, etc. See Mises.org for expo on central-banking; use their site search-engine.

And NOW, after installation of central-banking, we're on our way to the bottom, the "end-times" of Christian New Test. Book of Revelations--not necessarily the total end of the whole world, thou understand--but for sure, the end of the present era--because WAR is coming--the "good" morons have to kill the non-beeeeleeeeeevers, thou see.

There are now, at this stage of corruption and "end-times" just toooooo goddam many scum and inferiors--it's not their fault, but they just don't cut it w. all the subjectivist mentality they've assumed.

Thus in these "decline" yrs and "end-times" Jews, foremost subjectivists, RULE, and they keep everyone fighting one-another, Jews always thereby working to staying on top, Jews foremost subjectivists, thou see?

So we see we're in trouble, the over-population must be reduced in order to re-establish "stability," but once the warfare starts it's hard to see where/how it will end, exactly. Regardless such CYCLIC course of things is the typical pattern, easily observed and verified throughout history, in accord w. Oswald Spengler.

The satanist is sooooo outraged at mere truth and facts....

Below-copied by ap submitted at comments, http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/benefiti...omment-2777149

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History?--Simply Accounting Of The Past
(Apollonian, 23 Jan 19)

What?--Rothbard is not historian?--so do thou need a leg to standing-upon? WHAT do thou actually know about history?--not very much, we see.

The KNOWN, proven hist. facts verify Germany was viciously attacked by UK, France, and Russkie (and Serbians, indirectly, who attacked Austria by murdering the Archduke) conspirators in 1914, which they'd been planning since 1904, in case of UK and France ("Entente Cordiale"), and 1907 for Russkies. Germans were then falsely blamed for start of war (Versailles Treaty), and horribly treated, leading to election of unc' Adolf--which was actually what SAME conspirators, including USA wanted, so as to starting ANOTHER neat war for consolidation of world gov., bolshevik dictatorship--people weren't tired of it all yet--they NEVER are, humans being murdering sinners.

And once one faces up to the gross lies of holohoax, one sees what hero unc' Adolf really was, how Germany was doomed, fm way back in 1907, Hitler and Germans simply fighting a hopeless defense against cannibals led by Jews. It's actually hard to blame Jews for having such contempt for such stupid goyim.


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# 570, Anon[436] • Disclaimer says:
January 23, 2019 at 1:22 pm GMT • 100 Words
@jacques sheete

You do seem keen to hold on to your straw man of people allegedly accusing Hitler of wanting to take over the world. But Murray Rothbard’s linked 1966 flight of rhetoric, with not an ounce of actual evidemce, in favour of historical revisionism gives you negative support. It reads like the rant an op ed writer with a bad hangover might dictate to meet a deadline. Rothbard had some arguable points to make about economics but he is not a “historian” just because he writes some historical stuff, let alone because he praises revisionism.

Far from that Rothbard emission being cause for me to apologize to you, you ought to be apologizing to me for easting my time on such low grade stuff.


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# 574, Anon[312] • Disclaimer says:
January 24, 2019 at 5:47 am GMT
@apollonian

Piss off and stop wasting our time with wild unsubstantiated assertions. Rothbard, who had a few IQ points and facility with lucid language would have been embarrassed by your support.

Anti-semitism?--that's what Christianity is literally all about--and if u're not anti-semitic, u ain't no Christian, pilgrim....

Below-copied essay by ap first submitted, but CENSORED by kike, Unz, at comments, http://www.unz.com/gdurocher/darwin-on-the-rise-and-fall-of-human-races/#comments

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Purpose Of Christianity?--Defense Against Satanism/Subjectivism And Lies
(Apollonian, 20 Jan 19)

<blockquote>"...Christianity’s overemphasis on transcendent divinity, God out there in the clouds."</blockquote>

Thy problem (see below-copied by "anon 2") is thou fails to understand WHAT Christianity is in the very first place--IT IS NOT MYSTICISM--on the contrary. Note the philosophy of Christ is given by way of story-telling, given in Gospels and New Test. And there's no "God out there in the clouds," which is idiotic.

Christianity is about TRUTH, first and foremost, Christ = Truth (Gosp. JOHN 14:6). And all Christian ethics follows fm this basic precept. Note "truth" then is necessarily founded upon the OBJECTIVE (Aristotelian) reality--AGAINST subjectivism ("midrash") and "Oral Law Tradition." See Talmudical.blogspot.com, RevisionistReview.blogspot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo on Judaism and Talmud, etc.

<b>Note satanism is extreme subjectivism, idea reality is created by mind/consciousness, the subject being God, the creator--satanism.</b> Judaism then is an elaboration, Jews COLLECTIVIST subjectivists, Jews colluding, rendering and achieving most effective, successful sort of criminal conspiracy and "group-think," dominating, manipulating, and leading all the other subjectivists/satanists, as among the goyim, even though out-numbered by goyim, the goyim being more isolated and "individualist," not nearly as cohesive and effective as Jews.

Thus there is indeed problem for what Christianity is held to be and to be all about--as in thy case, sucker--thou hasn't the slightest idea, ho ho ho ho.

For "Vatican" (for example) is un-questionably a false church w. false prophets preaching Jew-friendly lies and prop., funded heavily and supported by Jews, the "Vatican" allied w. and supporting terror-state of Israel. Indeed, ALL the establishment "Christian" churches are false, Jew-friendly (that's the very problem), and traitorous, satanic supporters of Israeli terror-state.

Observe then that's practical pt. to the present (false) "Christian" establishment--to supporting, justifying, and making excuses for the Israeli terror-state and behind that terror-state the criminal enterprise of central-banking by which currency (not real MONEY) is generated out of nothing, literally legalized counterfeiting (see Mises.org for expo; use their site search-engine), by which Jews and Satanists own and control everybody and everything.

Thus Christianity and "Church," properly understood, is designed and meant for purpose of anti-satanism and anti-Semitism. So if thou aren't "anti-Semitic," thou are not Christian--anti-Semitism is what Christianity is properly all about.


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# 16, Anon 2 says:
January 20, 2019 at 6:34 am GMT • 500 Words

Re: In 1914 whites made up a third of human population

True. And now we are down to (optimistically speaking) one seventh (1 billion plus out of 7.7 billion), a global minority (By the way, I think whites should stress their global minority status – we are basically becoming an endangered species and need to be protected).

I think the ultimate reason is that we are no longer in harmony with our animal nature. We’ve become too civilized, something that Darwin was already aware of, and hence his claim that we are basically smart chimps provided a useful corrective. Historically, the West has gone from excessive aggression (e.g., slave trade, colonialism, etc. As recently as the 1960s, at a World’s Fair in Brussels (?), blacks from Africa were placed in a cage for everyone to gawk at. That was clearly inhumane) to excessive submissiveness (e.g., when Merkel in 2015 invited a million+ migrants to come to Germany without consulting with her EU allies, again demonstrating the bullying behavior that the rest of Europe has always found distasteful). The current preoccupation with toxic masculinity is another example of wanting males to display excessive submissiveness that is clearly out of harmony with our animal nature. As Aristotle said, the precise level of aggression when the situation calls for it, without going to either extreme is perfectly in harmony with our nature as rational animals.

I believe the situation will improve as the Europeans return to their pagan roots. One reason is that the Abrahamic religions are almost completely out of touch with the natural world. This is now changing. For example, the first temple to Odin in 1000 years was recently completed in Denmark. In Greece people are again beginning to visit the old temples dedicated to the Olympian gods. Granted, not many. However, after the horrors of the 20th century growing numbers of people now feel that excessive faith in science and technology is entirely unwarranted, and feel justified in turning to alternative medicine, eastern religions, and paganism.The gods and goddesses today are, of course, conceived in a much more sophisticated way as the powerful Jungian archetypes within our psyche that can exert synchronistic effects in the outer world, “As within, so without.” Many people believe that this will restore the vitality and the vigor (Pres. Kennedy’s favorite word!) they feel has been depleted in their neurotic urban lives. Paganism in this sense simply means a sense of reconnection with immanent divinity, divinity present in nature, including in us, a useful corrective to Christianity’s overemphasis on transcendent divinity, God out there in the clouds. This is of course nothing new. For example, it is reminiscent of New England Transcendentalism that Emerson was writing about.

Great vid by Jew female for expo on Talmud: pt. is that Talmud/Judaism is SUBJECTIVISM, known to kikes as "midrash" (interpretation)....

Below-copied by ap submitted, but CENSORED, deleted by kike, Unz, at comments, http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/benefiti.../#new_comments

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Talmud IS "Midrash"--Merely Fuller Elaboration--Subjectivism
(Apollonian, 20 Jan 19)

No, the dear lady is NOT "red herring" (see below-copied), she doing excellent work of necessary, essential exposition of Talmud, the basic method of "midrash" (interpretation). Don't thou get it?--Talmud and midrash are "interpretation"--of Torah, first of all--which all Christ vehemently condemned (as at Gosp. MATT, entire ch. 23). See Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo.

Thus Christ = TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), hence the OBJECTIVE (Aristotelian) reality, necessary basis/premise for any meaningful truth--against Jew/satanic lies (JOHN 8:44) founded in SUBJECTIVISM ("midrash").

Thus the basic philosophic dichotomy is objective reality vs. subjectivism, satanism being simply extreme subjectivism, idea reality is created by mind/consciousness, making subject God, the
creator--satanism by definition.

Jews then feature a COLLECTIVISTIC subjectivism/Satanism, most effective, successful "group-think," Jews most dedicated, committed, organized, by which Jews then dominate, manipulate, and lead all/any other subjectivists/satanists as among goyim, these goyim typically less cohesive, more isolated, and "individualist," even though far out-numbering Jews.


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# 496, Grace Poole says:
January 20, 2019 at 4:56 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Cloak And Dagger

Just wanted to emphasize to you and others that watching the second video is just as or even more enlightening

I watched both of them. The content is very illuminating although the videos are hard to watch because of poor production quality (e.g. her powerpoint slides are off screen). She talked about the 6 million as being a necessary realization from the Talmud, although she preceded it with the insistence that the holocaust did happen – an unjustified assertion. The itemization of how Christians must be mistreated is shocking, but not surprising.

If I understood here correctly, the whole insistence of the adoption of the 7 Noahide laws as the law of the land is dangerous, despite the facts that the laws themselves are innocuous, but because it meant that the Sanhedrin court (?) would have the rights to interpret, and somehow they had already decreed that Christians were in violation of the 1st and 5th law. I lost the logic there. This part was a stretch for me, and resembled the adoption of Sharia law as the law of the land. Both appear implausible.

But her description of the content of the Talmud was educational. Thanks for sharing.

Agreed, some insights into Talmud, so thanks for that.

Agree also with Cloak and Dagger’s criticisms.

Also wonder about:
— the character of UN “adoption” of Noahide laws: any more information on that?
— she’s got a real burr under her saddle re Vatican and “Vatican alliance with Noahide laws” and Netanyahu, etc.
— Anybody have any information about linkages among Chabad Lubavitch and other mainstream Jewish organizations such as ADL? Is Chabad represented among 52 presidents of Jewish organizations?
— She’s a holocaust believer.

Given the above — is this woman a red herring?


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[Since my above, top, entry was CENSORED/deleted by the kike, Unz, I went ahead and entered another note/essay, below-copied, as response to above by "Grace Poole." For some reason, the kike went ahead and posted it.]

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Consider What Unz Is Actually Doing Here, This Site
(Apollonian, 19 Jan 19)

Grace: this entire site, by Unz is a "red-herring," don't doubt. Unz is gate-keeper, his aim being, generally, the pretended "normalization" of Jews as part of humanity and USA (which is actually quite difficult, ho ho ho), oversight of gentiles to keep-up on what they're talking about, etc., and deleting anything in way of the Christian analysis of Jews, what they really are and how they do things--that's what's going-on here.

Basic dichotomy is truth vs. lies, but it extends consistently to "left vs. right" and "conservative vs. liberal," too

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Basic Dichotomy Of Ideals Holds, Long As Roots, Definitions Are Solid
(Apollonian, 18 Jan 19)

The real, most basic dichotomy is (a) Truth (Christ, Gosp. JOHN 14:6) vs. Lies (Satanism, Judaism, Gosp. JOHN 8:44).

(b) Thus dichotomy continues: truth, hence the objective (Aristotle) reality, only real basis for meaningful TRUTH, vs. SUBJECTIVISM of Judaism/Satanism, Judaism featuring thematic "midrash" (interpretation) and "Oral Law Tradition" (see Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo).

Note simple definition of Satanism being extreme subjectivism, making mind/consciousness creator of reality, making subject God--Satanism, by definition. Jews then feature a COLLECTIVIST subjectivism/Satanism, most sublime, effective, successful "group-think," most dedicated, committed, organized, making them dominant leaders over the rest of more isolated, individualist Satanists/subjectivists, as of goyim, even though goyim far out-number Jews.

Thus one sees the satanic Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE of "leftist," atheist "globalists vs. pretend "rightists" Zionist, "neo-cons" who backed trump, pretending to "nationalism." But these are just "good-cop" vs. "bad-cop" Jews playing their usual charades to confuse, befuddle goyim.

Note then Jews make use of this "right vs. left," "globalist vs. nationalist" anti-theses for good reason as they make much sense.

And don't forget, Jews/satanists control the central-banks, so they can easily afford to buy-off and -out any "nationalist" or "globalists," "rightists" or "leftists"--they're just brand-labels as of commercial advertising, and as Jews/satanists control mass Jews-media, they just ignore anyone who doesn't play their game and massively repeat over and over for the goyim the preferred Jew products, including political parties and "ideals."

But think of it: Jews are simply psychopaths, murderers and criminals--all in accord w. their Talmudic war-plan--so how does it really make sense to conflate such Satanist criminals w. "nationalism" and "right" vs. "left"? Sure, among Jew criminals, it makes sense to maintain some "globalist" criminals vs. some "nationalist" (Zionist) criminals.

What Jews then offer nationalists is as much to say, "sure, we're criminals of terror-state of Israel, but we're NATIONALIST criminals, and we don't like those 'globalists'." Ho hoo ho ho ho

"Progressive" merely means SUBJECTIVIST upon pretext of a false moralism, as of non-existent "good-evil." Whereas "conservative" means sticking w. the old-fashioned deterministic-objectivistic ideas, less emphasis upon putrid, new-fangled moralism, keeping w. Christian determinism, idea that we're all sinners.

Regarding thy notion of, <blockquote>"...Globalist-versus-nationalist axes has no relationship to left-v-right."
</blockquote> One must concede that the distinctions are merely blurred by intensive Jew lying and prop. generated by massive funding by control of the central-bank which Jews/Satanists typically hold. For "nationalist" would most correspond to "right," and "globalist" dictatorship w. socialist "left."

So to summarize: (a) truth vs. lies, (b) objective vs. subjective, (c) determinist vs. perfect "free" will, (d) hence "rightist," "conservative" free-market founded upon (objective) rationalist egoism vs. socialist dictatorship founded upon subjectivist perfect "free" will and "good-evil," hence "climate-change" lies, and Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE, etc. Socialism is mere style of dictatorship, founded upon non-existent moralistic (-styled) "good."

So the basic dichotomy structure, beginning w. truth vs. lies, and objective vs. subjective, remains intact through the chain and hierarchy of reasoning, though there is possible blurring and confusion due to weak definitions injected, insinuated, and effected by Jew lying and propaganda.


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# 48, Skeptikal says:
January 18, 2019 at 9:33 pm GMT • 300 Words
@Robert M

“I think many have been conned into thinking this is a left-wing-versus-right-wing, but I’m starting to think the Globalist-versus-nationalist axes has no relationship to left-v-right.

Let me put it this way. I’m instinctively right wing, but if I had to choose between a left-wing-nationalist or a right-wing-globalist, these days I would now choose the LWN.”

this seems to me to be an extremely important point: the increasing irrelevance and even counterproductivity of the left/right paradigm.

Both supposedly left and right have a globaslist wing and a nationalist wing.

So that creates a Venn diagram where traditionally progressive beliefs can be combined with either nationalism or globalism, and traditoinally conservative to reactionary beliefs and convictions can also be combined with either globalism or nationalism—but, just with different features of these than the traditional progressives. This is what is making the current political moment so interesting. The old paradigms really do no apply and a new paradigm is in the process of being born.

In this new paradigm both progressive and conservative beliefs are “filtered” through the prism of both globalism and nationalism, and vice versa. Globalism and nationalism likewise are filtered through “progressive” and “conservative” beliefs. The mentally sluggish are stuck with unusable combinations of ideas. The mentally nimble are working out how the new paradigm functions. How to translate it into effective political action seems to be to be the challenge of the current moment.

To express the new cross-cutting across various grain in an extreme fashion: Is there any way at all in which Trump can be called a progressive? Yes! If he means it about the Syria pullout and diminishing American military adventurism around the globe, that is a part of the traditional progressive agenda. Although erstwhile conservatives who are now neos decry this as isolationism. Thetraditoinal left is equally confused. Their big mistake was to miss, so far, the New Paradigm boat and go after Trump in every single detail. It is an intellectual failure as much as anything else .

Kike says it's "bizarre" people don't take up his lying filth....

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Jews Worship Lies, Lying, Liars--Feature Prayer About Lying--"Kol Nidre"
(Apollonian 18 Jan 19)

Thou are simply the typical Jew liar, pushing the Jew lies and holohoax. "Mainstream narrative" is notorious lies by Jews and Jews-media, etc., holohoax dis-proven over and again--see Codoh.com for definitive expo.

"[B]izarre"?--says the Jew, but is there anything more monstrous than Jews?--Jews notorious liars--see New Testament, Gosp. JOHN 8:44, wherein Jesus Christ attests to the satanic nature of Jew lying--Jews worshipping lies, lying, and liar, like satan, the father of his sons, Jews.

Ernst Zundel's lawyer, Barbara Kulaszka, produced, "Did Six Million Really Die?" transcripts of court case which essentially established hoax and lies of holohoax, Jews and the Canadian state producing NO EVIDENCE for holohoax lies of Jews, etc., merely the pretended witness testimony of Jew liars who were exposed in court. Jew Prof. Finkelstein wrote book, "The Holocaust Industry," exposing Jew lies of holohoax.

Talmudic rabbis feature notorious "Kol Nidre" prayer exculpating Jew liars in advance for all the lies they programmatically tell--see Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo on thematic Jew lying, lies, and liars, who worship lies and lying.


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# 22, German_reader says:Next New Comment
January 19, 2019 at 3:22 am GMT • 100 Words
@Linh Dinh

I don’t know what’s supposed to be so hard about adopting a position that the Holocaust essentially did happen as in the mainstream narrative, but that it has been exploited for all manner of highly questionable positions (e.g. uncritical support for Zionism, open borderism, German/white ethnomasochism) which should be criticized.
The Holocaust denial on this site is just bizarre.

In deterministic world, race actually means a lot....

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Race Is Everything, Seriously
(Apollonian, 18 Jan 19)

Fatima: In case there's any doubt left in thy mind regarding Jews--don't thou thinketh best thing is to ck-ing their basic philosophy?--it's in Talmud, also Zohar (Cabala)--and remember, it isn't ONLY "religion"--it's philosophy too. Jews are foremost subjectivists, as I noted. See Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com. Find-out about their "midrash" and "Oral Law Tradition," their fundamental method.

Regarding "racism," note, if thou just checketh any dictionary, thou sees the real meaning: LOYALTY and pride in people, ancestors, culture--racism is a virtue. And note also, racism is AXIOMATIC--for one is necessarily loyal, even if only by default, to SOME race, mixed or non-mixed, "white," black, red, yellow, brown--whatever--"white" (which is a generalized abstraction, obviously) or non-white. And if then thou says thou are loyal to human race in general, then that just reduces to "mixed," doesn't it?

Note also, regarding race, following the determinist premise (absolute cause-effect, no perfectly "free" will), whatever race one is determines the way one thinks and acts, determines cultural back-ground, the premises upon which further conclusions are based. So as the Jew, Disraeli, the old British Prime Minister, said (I understand, in one of his fiction works), "race is everything--is all."

I think thou deserves lots of credit to come here to this site and face us racist scum--we believe we're right and justified--and we're not ever going to just give-up--and note, we ALWAYS win in the end. Generations fm now, the people will surely enjoy a holiday to commemorate the extermination of Judaism, if not Jews themselves--a crushing blow by humanity against Satanism, eh?--that's what I'm working for, anyway.


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# 326, Fatima Manoubia says:
January 17, 2019 at 8:48 pm GMT • 1,000 Words
@Heros

Why do you hate…

I do not hate, that for starters ( may be racist misogynist fascists or ISIS thugs…but, well, those are not worth even the effort in trying….), it seems that it´s precisely you who have a long list of human beings to hate, since it is obvious that it is not only Jews with whom you have issues, but also, muslims, “commies”, and how not, women, especially if they are feminists…. ( but, I fear, it is really any woman who dares to have an opinion in your presence, isn´t it? ) I fear I am getting short with those named so far….

I do not hate Palestinians ( what do you know of me to assert such a lie, moron? ) whom I have defended in the internet forums more than you could do in 100 lives.

Only tried to make the point that there could be Jew people who could be honest…. I went a bit metaphorical, and get lost on the branches, a commonality in me, I notice, and not the kind of comment is appreciated here, but, well, lesson learnt for the next time, after all, no está hecha la miel para la boca del burro…

I wonder, what part of that I did never intend buying any Israeli product, have you, and the other two or three over here, not understand from my comment?
What part of me having issue in wearing an Israeli product once aware of its acquisition and thus intend to hide its origins did you not understand either?

Have you noticed ( if there is any time in the day when you are not blinded by your hatred of everybody to reflect a bit… ) that the sandals traveled through all the Middle East and Magreb, still wearing its trade patch ( which I could not remove without hurting the stripes badly…not funds for another pair…nor at my hand the luxury to throw them away…) and nobody had any issue, since most people there are mainly centered in the hard work of surviving and saving the day, and, if possible, taking a few of spare time to have a good time even with a friendly foreigner passing? Yes, you see, those damned muslims are such hospitable and helpful, and enjoy such and ancient and wide culture so as to enjoy those little things of which you have no idea….hence your bitterness…

Of course, besides of a pair of Israeli good sandals at my feet, I also hold an Spanish passport, plus the fame of my Basque countrymen/women ( impenitent travellers …) who preceded me, to have the doors wide open even in the most remote corner of the world….

FYI, it is precisely in Europe where Palestinian rights are most defended ( do not come here to give lessons on that…) and concretely here, in the Basque Country, they have always had a bastion where they can lay for support, with multiple initiatives for such a tiny portion of land we live in….
What have you done for the Palestinians lately, tell me, you American? Let me guess, rien de rien, if not vociferating from your safe space at your armchair/computer….lest Mossad is coming…. after you…..Ahhh, horror!
Do you know what impression you make? That you are all scared of them to the bones….And they know it!…. This is why you are doomed…Take it as it is, and stop projecting your self-loathing over the rest of us, do us a favor.

I have not any obligation of giving you personal data, but I will say you that I am so muslim out of the nick name I wear here, as you are a “Hero”, by the same reason, nothing to do with reaity, although I could well be described as an arabophile, since I love Arab culture, art, music, people and mystic, and I am very interested in real Islam, not the invented distortions produced in the US/KSA so that be able to throw an army of dangerous criminals armed to the teeth freshly released from high security jails to continue looting those countries which do not surrender to their aims of conquest and expoil….

For the rest, and since you love here talking about race so much, I am a Celt ( 100%), born and currenty living in the Basque Country by migration of my parents who arrived here in their teens. I love both cultures, love especially the sea, where I pass all time I am able, but also the mountains, the desert, and the peoples of the world….Hence I spend all my funds available travelling….

And, btw, for you to rage more, when I get my new passport, I wil be travelling to Israel too, I am going to walk Vía Dolorosa at sunset…..and, why not, eat some good falafel….and, if I manage, I would like also visiting Palestinian territories…and talk a bit while smoking a sisha ( it´s the only thing I smoke…love the custom…especially with apple savor…)

I use to enjoy meeting people, but I can not say it was a pleasure meeting you. You are a rude, man, as you approach unknown people this way, offending at the first word you say… No wonder you are complaining on that nobody here wants to engage with you, why should they?
I am going to be blunt now, just buy a forest for yourself… and get lost….

Finally, old is you, independently of your age, and, for you to see that I do not hate… even you, I leave you some advice…

If anytime you arrive in Paris, go to Chez Finkelstein, at Le Marais neighborhood and order a “Jidish sandwich” and cheesecake for dessert, these are my favourites, all very good and homemade, nothing to do with what The Donald offered the other day to those poor guys….

And a song…..

Israel, like Jews, Judaism, must be destroyed/removed for the good of humanity....

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Would Be Net Plus To Remove/Destroy Israel
(Apollonian, 18 Jan 19)

It's not Jews are "bad"--there's no such thing as "bad" (as opposed to "good"--no such thing as "good," either), but Jews are Satanist disease feeding upon humanity, and humanity naturally strives to remove and oppose such Jews, like removing and opposing typhus or plague.

For note Jews simply fulfill a socio-biologic function--like yin and yang. To Jews, as we know fm Talmud and Zohar, gentiles are "bad"--like a disease.

So it seems to be a CYCLIC struggle: when there gets to be too many stupid gentiles, suddenly Jews/Satanists arise and thrive, working against, feeding upon the weaklings among gentiles, etc.

Overall, it would not be bad to have Jews removed fm a safe criminal head-quarters haven like Israel, even though it would mean more Jews infesting other lands--as if we in USA don't have enough of the psychopaths.


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# 331, Steve in Greensboro says:Next New Comment
January 17, 2019 at 10:18 pm GMT
OK. OK.

Israel bad. Jews bad.

Let’s imagine that the Palestinians destroy Israel.

Where do you all suppose the Jews will go?

Does that change your view of Israel?

Satanic goal is precisely to pushing lies as religion, AND at tax-payers' expense....

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CYCLIC Reality Must Lead To Reign Of Satanism, Satanists
(Apollonian, 18 Jan 19)

Grace: answer to thy question is it's (institution of this new holohoax religion) simply necessary extension of obligatory SATANIST program. After all, we have to get on w. Agenda-21 and 2030 GENOCIDE, right? So institution of lies, lying, and liars for sake of lies, lying, and liars must go on, like the proverbial "show."

This satanic corruption is necessary, thematic part of CYCLIC process of "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler, whence a culture/civilization is built at first upon genuine heroes who work productively and fight successfully, but, after a certain pt., begins inexorable "decline" in corruption/perversion--going fm the objectivistic philosophy of Aristotle (in general, even if not explicitly) to the subjectivism, as we have now, roughly of Immanuel Kant (also Karl Marx), everything rigged to produce "moral virtue."

So everything, including precious Constitution, must give way to this "moral virtue," the product of extreme subjectivism by which subject literally produces and creates reality by means of mentality/consciousness, making the subject God, the creator--Satanism. But at least these Gods then create (otherwise non-existent) "good" and lord it over (non-existent) "evil." People LOVE and crave to feeling "good" more than anything.

Who then dominates?--the most COLLECTIVISTIC of the subjectivists/Satanists, who co-operate most sublimely by means of most successful, effective "group-think," most dedicated, committed, organized, thus dominating and leading all the other, more isolated, "individualistic" of subjectivists, moralists, and Satanists--even though these collectivists are far out-numbered by the other Satanists among the goyim.

And long as these organized Satanists control the central-bank, and the currency (not real MONEY) is accepted by the overwhelming masses of goons, morons, suckers, inferiors, and weaklings who don't care to realize they're being conned and suckered by this funny-money, this small coterie of Satanists will rule--what's happening presently.


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# 405, Grace Poole says:Next New Comment
January 19, 2019 at 12:50 am GMT • 100 Words
@Tyrion 2

You ask that question of the wrong person; ask Deborah Lipstadt why she insists, almost revels, that all those Jews were murdered, in the face of contrary evidence or no evidence (i.e. corpses, death certificates or lists, etc.) to support her position.

My question really has little to do with details of the event; rather, it’s concerned with the unconstitutionality of enforcing a quasi-religious dogma on American school children at US taxpayer expense. No need to make an argument for or against “a lot” or “not a lot” of Jews being murdered.

satanism is cause of the present CYCLIC downtrend and seeming "suicide" of West....

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Spenglerian "Decline Of West" Is Not Necessarily "Suicide," Merely Down-Trend
(Apollonian, 17 Jan 19)

Durocher observes, above: <blockquote>"In 1914, we [presumably whites] essentially dominated the world and made up a third of human population. Before 2100, a blink of an eye in historical let alone evolutionary terms, we will have lost control not only of our colonial empires but even of our own homelands, being reduced to minorities in not only North America but even Western Europe. We will make up less than 5 percent of the global population. The triumph of liberal-democracy’s individualist and egalitarian principles have coincided with Europeans’ evolutionary suicide."</blockquote>

Well, the SEEMING "suicide" of whites is surely because Durocher's "...liberal-democracy’s individualist and egalitarian principles" is just really euphemism for SATANISM, a mish-mash of irrationalist, anti-human, and false moralism, as fm such as Immanuel Kant and Karl Marx, a couple of nut-cases who yet captured the imagination of a lot of (over-populated morons and fools) people who destroyed themselves--who needed destruction too, I submit--for their "moral" ideas are LITERALLY suicidal, Kant's "duty," and Marx's crass altruism, "to each according to need, fm each according to ability"--PERFECTLY designed for the death of the host/subject.

Thus Oswald Spengler is well vindicated for his magnificent exposition of CYCLIC "Decline of the West," whence the founder generations are highly commendable, heroic, victorious, and productive, BUT allowing for and leading then to an OVER-population of masses of inferiors and weaklings of the inheritor generations--as in the Roman and American examples--who didn't have to work so hard or fight as much, become corrupt and perverse in their HUBRIS, bringing-in the Jews, for another example, the Jews then taking-over, and now we have to facing present-day Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE.

So observe the original OBJECTIVE-orientation, philosophically, of the founders is REVERSED in the inheritors' subjectivism, especially in way of moralism, pretending to (non-existent) "good-evil" and (non-existent) "free" will--rather than the more pronounced determinism (absolute cause-effect, NO perfectly "free" will) of the founders. Thus we have presently the total hegemony of the ultra-subjectivist Jews, featuring their filthy Talmudic "midrash" (interpretation) and "Oral Law Tradition."

The Jews then aren't the first cause of things--the cause is simply the natural, CYCLIC corruption and HUBRIS, as of the inheritor generations who thereupon bring-in Jews, making Jews the arbiters, the Jews soon totally taking-over an already corrupt culture/society--it's where we are now in the CYCLIC process of things historic and sociologic.

And specifically we see the take-over of the Jews in the central-banking system (see Mises.org for expo; use site search-engine), the gentiles beginning and starting the fiat-currency schemes, but too conflicted to be successful, the Jews then taking-over such criminal-enterprise (literally legalized counterfeiting), the gentile people not grasping such fraudulence, being tooo stupid and over-populated, falling over one another, the Jews far more COLLECTIVISTICALLY-oriented, "thick as thieves," far more successful in "group-think," dedication, commitment, and especially organization.

So in conclusion: I submit the present corruption and catastrophe, as in the central-bank corruption, is only partially a "suicide"--ACTUALLY it is a necessary CULLING-OUT of the over-populated inferiors and weaklings--a distinct down-trend, without a doubt--but not at all a complete "suicide" for ALL the members.

Determinism, simplest, easiest philosophy, but stupid puke just insist obsessively about being "good"....

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Determinism Follows FM Objectivity; Free Will And Satanism Follow FM Subjectivism
(Apollonian, 16 Jan 19)

Yes, "evolution, traits, and genes" fit in w. DETERMINISM, absolute cause-effect, no perfectly "free" will. And this "free" will conceit and presumption is what moralists, like Jews, absolutely crave and depend upon to "stimulation" and especially psychologic manipulation of people of the West who are so much brought-up on "good-evil," guilt, and inferiority-complex.

Hence the objective (Aristotle) reality is opposed by SUBJECTIVISM, idea reality is mere "construct" of mind/consciousness, making oneself the Godly creator of reality--satanism--the extreme of this subjectivism always amounting to outright satanism which is what Jews exploit most of all in the evermore corrupt society of subjectivism and satanism.

Pretext to this subjectivism, hence satanism, is ALWAYS and typically moralism and "good-evil" delusion. For if one accepts the (false) premise of "free" will--he is capable of being manipulated and shamed by means of "good-evil," and eventually to a fuller subjectivism and hence, ultimately outright satanism.

Jews rule and dominate the satanic culture/society as they're foremost, COLLECTIVISTIC subjectivists, co-operating and colluding by means of most sublime and effective "group-think," Jews most committed, dedicated, and organized subjectivists--foremost Satanists. Jew subjectivism is easily verified fm Talmudic "midrash" (interpretation) and "Oral Law Tradition."

Thus Jews always and evermore dominate a society which is in decline, the society evermore corrupt, as described in Spengler's "Decline of the West."


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# 172, joe webb says:
January 16, 2019 at 7:42 pm GMT
@apollonian

Talmudic is the Rand hermeneutic. As absurd as any Philosophy based on a couple precepts not guided by Evolution, traits, genes.
Joe Webb

Renfro caught up in same old Pharisaism--against legitimate art....

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"Renfro," The Pharisaic Fool, Dupe
(Apollonian, 16 Jan 19)

Actually, "Renfro's" main effort is the usual, typical display of self-righteousness--that's about it for renfro. So scummy, hook-nosed filth who follow Talmudic satanism want to "insult" Christians?--so what?--who cares?--like they haven't been doing that for ages.

Renfro is just un-hinged. It doesn't dawn upon Renfro he's just making the same sort of Pharisaical display the Jews like to doing--a Pharisaic in his own manner--the IRONY of it all.

And worst of all, the fool refuses to note the real artistic value and worth of the "McJesus." For Christianity is truly a magnificent cultural achievement, BUT it's subject, like everything else, to hucksterism, cheapness, and superficiality--like so much of nearly everything else--and this is what the "McJesus" captures and expresses quite well.

It's (the "McJesus") as much an "insult" to the phony and superficial Christians--including and especially those phony "Christians," like the "Judeo-Christians" who suck-up to Israel and Jews, as much as anything else. But Renfro can't figure it out, the poor fool.


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# 242, renfro says:
January 16, 2019 at 6:33 pm GMT • 100 Words
@NoseytheDuke

A lot of what you have written is true however I don’t see Piss Christ as being mocking of true Christianity as much as it is revealing what a mockery of true Christianity the modern religion of Christianity has become

That may be true but its not the point….the point of this discussion on it is that Israel deliberately chose the McDonald exhibit to insult Christians.

I don’t think anything is or should be sacred as far as comedy is concerned

You’d probably change your mind if one of those comedy TV film clip shows of embarrassing moments showed a video clip of your wife attempting to wipe her anus in the toilet after a bowel movement and forgot to use toilet paper to do it.

People need to realize satanism is not mere "religion" or just mysticism--it's actually quite a simple philosophy and proposition about mentality....

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Most Effective For All Gentiles (Including Whites) Is Revival Of REAL Christianity
(Apollonian, 16 Jan 19)

Note "Nazis" (a name given to them by Jews, don't forget) were heroes who sought to defend Germany fm the Jews, including esp. the bolshies.

But the necessity is to revive the REAL Christianity, worship of TRUTH, above all--Gosp. JOHN 14:6--against Satanism and lies (JOHN 8:44), Satanism being extreme subjectivism, subjectivism the idea mind/consciousness creates reality, making oneself to be God, the creator--Satanism, by definition. Note Satanism isn't mere "religion"--it's actually a simple expression of philosophy--extreme subjectivism.

Satanists controlling the central-bank of issue, US Federal Reserve Bank (see Mises.org for expo; use their site search-engine for particular terms), which generates nearly INFINITE currency (not real MONEY), the Satanists literally control ALL the establishment "Christian" churches, including a particularly noxious hereticalist group, the "Judeo-Christians" (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo) who say "Christ was Jew," and support terror-state of Israel.

For the real problem is SATANISM--extreme subjectivism--by which, for thematic example, present world gov.-dictatorship intends Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE--this being their explicit intention and program which anyone can read-up on, including even on Jew-tube, still.

Jews then are simply foremost, leading Satanists (ck their Talmud and Zohar, see Talmudical.blogspot.com, RevisionistReview.blogspot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for best expo), Jews practicing a COLLECTIVISTIC subjectivism/Satanism, most dedicated, committed, organized, featuring most effective, successful "group-think," thus Jews naturally dominating all the more isolated, "individualistic" Satanists/subjectivists among the goyim, who vastly out-number Jews.


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# 137, the grand wazoo says:
January 17, 2019 at 2:31 am GMT • 100 Words

You are 1000% right about Conservatism Inc. It is infiltrated, if not created by: guess who? White men must stand up. It’s ok to be white. It’s even great to be white. Don’t fall for the bs. If a white man can’t stand up for his heritage he’s a disgrace to his race. Jews do it, blacks do it, Hispanics do, whites have to do it too. WHITE PRIDE doesn’t mean you’re a Nazi.

"Reign of peace"?--regardless, is mere interlude btwn warfare, catastrophe....

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"Reign Of Peace" Never Anything But Prelude To More Horror, Catastrophe
(Apollonian, 16 Jan 19)

Barton: was it really "reign of peace"?--ho ho ho ho--it was merely sustained Roman dominance and consolidation of the Mediterranean littoral w. no substantial, organized opposition until rise of Sassanians of Persia.

Meantime, there were the terrorist dictatorships of the emperors, like Tiberias, Caligula, Nero, Domitian, the rebellions of Jews in 66, 112, and 132, AD etc. The Germanic tribes were never subdued, Varus losing three legions at Teutoburg forest, during the reign of Augustus. "Reign of peace" was also a stagnation, at least politically, which degenerated soon enough to "Third Century Crisis" of just more civil wars among the generals, the Germanics now invading, etc.

Civilization in West did not re-awaken until the High Middle Age of about 1050, Christendom consolidated, leading then to Renaissance--but meantime, Jews and Satanism were also re-awakening.

The US a "republic"?--ever hrd of the 1860s war when the republic was destroyed?--ho ho ho ho. So economics outruns the political events, US continuing to advance (economically), but leading to WWI devastation, Bolshevist and world dictatorship/empire of League of nations, and then 30s depression for US, etc. Now we have Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE on the menu--isn't it lovely? It's hardly a "reign of peace," by any estimation--rather it is "perpetual war for perpetual peace," the Jews and Satanists ruling and dominating, as we see.


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# 285, BartonFink says:
January 15, 2019 at 4:29 pm GMT • 100 Words

I can’t take seriously any article that jumps right to the logic loop of “The US is an empire. Empires collapse; therefore, the US is collapsing.” I’ve read Glubb, but I’ve also read macro-historians like Warren Carroll. The US remains a Republic until someone is bold enough to openly abolish the checks and balances that have been eroding for decades. What comes next is anybody’s guess, but Rome’s long period of civil war and transfer from Republic to Empire was followed by Augustus’ reign of peace.

Stupid dink tells too many Jew-friendly lies for anyone to believe he's "white"....

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Could "Thomm" REALLY Be "White"?--Impossible, No Wayyyy
(Apollonian, 16 Jan 19)

"Thomm": There's no way thou could be "white," sucker, as thy lying is just toooooo manifold, replete w. lies and lying within the lies, eh? Thou sayeth:

<blockquote>"i) We are to believe that white gentiles are the most superior people,...."</blockquote>

We don't at all say this, quoted fm thou, liar; for we whites are sinners no more nor less than anyone else, and as reality is objective, so it's DETERMINED according to absolute cause-effect, there being no perfectly "free" (God-like) will, as thou and thy people (thy real people, the "chosen," eh?) say.

<blockquote>
"...yet can be totally manipulated..."</blockquote>

Well yes, maybe not all, but many people of a given culture/society are "manipulated" by means of propaganda and edjumacation, etc., esp. by the large HUBRIS that overtakes a society/culture after it's achieved some success, prosperity, and conquests, etc.

Thus the culture/society is observed to follow a CYCLIC "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler, and a satanistic character prevails, as Agenda-21 and -2030 GENOCIDE is the literal, explicit policy of ruling world-gov. dictatorship, the people being mass-murdered by poison vaccines, GMO foods, poison drugs, deadly 5G microwave radiation, "chem-trails," etc.

The take-over of the culture/society is essentially complete when the central-bank of issue (like the US Federal Reserve Bank) can literally create currency (not real MONEY) out of nothing--see Mises.org; use their search-engine. Thus a small elite, like Jews, can easily take total control, as has happened, as we plainly see.

For as the society is dominated by Satanism (extreme subjectivism), the Satanists are dominated by most thoroughgoing Satanists--JEWS, sucker. Open thy eyes--look around.

<blockquote> "ii) We are to believe that the mechanisms via which Israel has taken control of the US cannot be used by someone with even deeper pockets (say, China) to oust Israel’s position as the puppet master."</blockquote>

Ignorant fool: no one, and NOTHING has "deeper pockets" than the central-bank of issue which can potentially create literally INFINITE currency, sucker--ck the ref. I gave thou, Mises.org. Guess who controls this central-bank?--like ALL the central-banks of the world--ever hrd of Rothschilds?

<blockquote> iii) "We are to believe that Jews want to swindle and destroy America..."</blockquote>

Ck the Jews' Talmud and Zohar, fool: see Talmudical.blogspot.com, RevisionistReview.blogspot.com, and Come-and-hear.com for expo. Jews hate humanity and are at war w. them--it's their religion, moron. "The best of the goyim; kill him."

<blockquote>"...when America in fact is what prevented Jews from being totally eradicated by Hitler."</blockquote>

These are just PROVEN lies by the Jews ("holohoax"), and it's how we KNOW thou aren't and couldn't be "white," sucker--for why would any self-respecting "white" person tell such palpable Jew-friendly, Jew-serving lies against victimized gentiles?--thou COULD NOT BE "white"--it isn't possible to be soooo treacherous and self-destructively stupid.

<blockquote>"If anything, Jews should be pillaging Germany rather than the US."</blockquote>

Get a clue sucker, see James Bacque, "Other Losses," and "Crimes and Mercies": Jews and allied satanists mass-murdered about 9 million Germans after the war, esp. by means of simple starvation--much like the starvation which killed Germans after WWI.

Thou concludeth, <blockquote>"Sorry, but belief in the Jewish conspiracy theory requires too much of a suspension of disbelief. White Trashionalists are just driven by crude, envious anti-Semitism."
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Just because thou art so ignorant, like about central-banking, Talmud, Zohar, and the mass-murders of Germans after WWII, doesn't mean it isn't the verified fact, sucker. And "anti-Semitism" is merely the necessary reciprocal of the anti-gentilism of Jews. "Envious"?--why wouldn't anyone be envious of this amazing satanic power of Jew criminals and psychopaths?--esp. as it's enabled by the stupidity and ignorance of such as thee.


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# 9, Thomm says:
January 15, 2019 at 6:50 am GMT • 200 Words

There are too many contradictory views within the sordid swamp of White Trashionalism.

i) We are to believe that white gentiles are the most superior people, yet can be totally manipulated by Jews, who we outnumber 50-to-1 within the Western world alone.

ii) We are to believe that the mechanisms via which Israel has taken control of the US cannot be used by someone with even deeper pockets (say, China) to oust Israel’s position as the puppet master.

iii) We are to believe that Jews want to swindle and destroy America when America in fact is what prevented Jews from being totally eradicated by Hitler. If anything, Jews should be pillaging Germany rather than the US.

iv) We are to believe that our usual allies (Britain, Canada, Australia, etc.) expend some blood and treasure to join us in our wars because they, too, have been manipulated by tiny Israel. If they have not been manipulated, they could perhaps talks us out of our trance.

Sorry, but belief in the Jewish conspiracy theory requires too much of a suspension of disbelief. White Trashionalists are just driven by crude, envious anti-Semitism. Nothing more.

"Renfro" must get past his self-righteousness in order to appreciate real artistic value/meaning of "McJesus"....

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There's Is Genuine Way "McJesus" Is Legitimate, Substantial Art With Real Meaning, Relevance
(Apollonian, 16 Jan 19)

Renfro, buddy: thou must get past thy self-righteousness, by which thou merely reduces to the very same Pharisaism which thou seeketh to denounce.

Say thou were Jew, brought-up in the religion so that thou had no real or other context, too prejudiced towards one's own, and then say that Jew looked upon the large ostensive "Christian" society/culture--and remember this would include <b>not only the real, true Christianity</b>, but also in addition all the off-shoots and various marginalist look-alikes and knock-offs of the real thing (like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, et al). THEN, that which thou here sees as mere crass mockery might begin to making more sense, eh?

But it wouldn't really be, or ONLY be a "mockery" of the real thing, would it?--for even if it was, it would just roll off like water off duck's back--as the real, true Christianity can easily withstand such pathetic attempts and endeavors, eh? It would rather be a larger, broader sort of "mockery" of the whole, large, entire complex, including not only the real, true Christianity, wouldn't it?--which is otherwise hidden or at least blurred quite a bit. And then it ("McJesus") makes more sense, not only to any Jew brought-up exclusively in that religion, BUT ALSO, quite possibly, to any other non-Christian--Hindus, Buddhists, et al., even the Musselmen who otherwise acknowledge Christ, though only as prophet.

I maintain thus it's (McJesus) legitimate art w. genuine merit and real substance--as serious Christian myself, it doesn't bother me, really--thou needeth to broaden thy aesthetical perspective, buddy--get "hip" as the beatniks used to say.


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# 121, renfro says:
January 15, 2019 at 10:10 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Reuben Kaspate

I don’t know. He says he’s against the Israeli occupation of Palestine so?
I think perhaps he just wanted attention for his so called art work and like many no talents he created something that would shock and get attention.

But the Israelis choosing to borrow this specific piece from the Finnish for their national museum was deliberate….a way to insult Christians.

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# 163, renfro says:
January 16, 2019 at 1:53 am GMT
@apollonian

I cant respond to that because its babble.


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# 174, apollonian says: • Website
January 16, 2019 at 2:20 am GMT
@renfro

“Refro”: it’s not “babble,” sucker–thou just can’t read, evidently. I merely explained how “McJesus” could well be seen as real, genuine ART if one only looked at it without thy Pharisaist self-righteousness, pretending thou are soooo put-out, tut, tut–but that’s thy problem, not mine.

satanism presently rules, thus Jews rule, all in this Spenglerian "Decline of the West"....

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Satanism, Hence Jews, RULE "Decline Of The West"
(Apollonian, 15 Jan 19)

<blockquote>"The Jews as individuals can be good or bad. The Jews as a collective are almost always bad- but there are exceptions even there, as is evinced by the patriotic German Jews who provided a support of some measure to the National Socialists."</blockquote>

One can ultimately always tell the moles by the lies they tell, this one, quoted above, rather in form of "big lie," as in way of a brainless generalization which is calculated to get past many if not most of the goyim morons.

Just think of it like this:--are there "good" psychopaths, "good" child-molesters, "good" satanists?--ho ho ho oho--and the reality becomes more clear. For note what are Jews?--by definition they're (a) Talmudists, or (b) those by genetics/race who are related, even if, like Unz, they pretend they're not "religious."

For Talmud features a PHILOSOPHY--that of (extreme) subjectivism by which reality is defined as created by mentality/consciousness, the subject then God, the creator--SATANISM, by definition--it's not just "religion," by which Jews, like Unz, try to confuse people--even themselves, for Jews don't stop lying even to themselves, suckers--it's just the lies must serve the Jews, as adjudicated then by the rabbis.

Regardless, any one who calls himself "Jew," like Unz, is expressing loyalty to the Jew, hence the Talmudist. And what's "Talmudist"?--obviously it's one who practices the PHILOSOPHY, not only the religion, which "religion" is merely the same intellectual philosophy integrated additionally within the sentiment/sub-conscious.

And that Talmudic philosophy then is the subjectivist WAR against the objective reality and humanity for simple political/sociologic purpose of world-gov. dictatorship.

Thus note the hierarchy of satanism (subjectivism) by which Jews rule:

(a) War of truth (= Christ, according Gosp. JOHN 14:6) vs. lies, satanism (JOHN 8:44)

(b) Objective reality, necessary basis for any real "truth" vs. subjectivism (Talmud, "midrash," "Oral Law Tradition").

(c) Note then there are lots of subjectivists, especially among goyim who far out-number Jews, but the goyim are notoriously isolated, "individualist," and not nearly as COLLECTIVISTIC as Jews who practice most sublime, effective "group-think," Jews most committed, dedicated, organized, Jews thus necessarily ruling, dominating, and leading the larger satanistic complex.

(d) Subjectivists/Satanists then, in general, including all the numerous goyim, rule the corrupt, hubristic society in Spenglerian "Decline of the West," by means of simple fear and intimidation, esp. as the "people" are dis-organized, as we see, as typical in a corrupt, hubris-infused, "declining" empire--as is visible and verifiable today.

There's more to be analyzed, of course, but the pt. here is to IDENTIFY and define the Jews, how they work within, hence come to dominate the LARGER satanic, imperialist environment--why the natural evolution occurred, the Jew-dominated central-banking complex leading necessarily to the Israeli head-quarters for the terror-state, etc. (which did 9/11, for another example, yet gets-away w. it so easily).

For remember, satanists, hence Jews, must conduct "perpetual war for perp. peace" as way of maintaining their position on top of things amidst the seeming chaos--and this is dangerous, risky, and ultimately a failure, for things continue declining, and there's "no honor among thieves"--observe the "neo-con" Jews, who backed Trump, having betrayed the formerly ruling "globalist," more "atheistic"-oriented, "leftists," who are now squawking and shrieking soooo pathetically--and if they're merely "acting" and pretending, they're doing excellent job, eh?


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# 69, Mulegino1 says:Next New Comment
January 15, 2019 at 5:12 pm GMT • 100 Words

Who will rid me of these troublesome rabbis?

The Jews as individuals can be good or bad. The Jews as a collective are almost always bad- but there are exceptions even there, as is evinced by the patriotic German Jews who provided a support of some measure to the National Socialists.

International Jewry, on the other hand is bad-always and everywhere. There is a line of malevolent affinity between Annas, Caiphas, Leon Trotsky, Soros and Bibi Netanyahu, inter alia, which is evident and manifest. They represent the vanguard of Antichrist himself.

Regarding pensions, Social-Security, elders are not nearly the victims as the coming younger generations....

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Stupidity Has Inexorable Consequences--Get A Brain
(Apollonian, 13 Jan 19)

"Folly..." Thou are failing to catch-on, buddy. The demonstrable, overwhelming fact and reality is that, given the debt which now exists and must be paid, esp. by the following generations--the currency is ALREADY necessarily required to be soooooooooooooooooooo inflated (proliferated) to paying-off that ALREADY horrendously HUGE debt, that the pensions and "Soc. Security" Zog-bux will be virtually worthless--doth thou "get it"?

In other words, EVEN if the payments in Soc. Sec. and pensions were DOUBLED OR TRIPPLED, the currency will be sooooooooooooooooooo reduced in value, the poor recipients will be lucky to buy a stick of gum w. those inflated, now-worthless Zog-bux.

Just ck the recent news: in California, the state pensions ("CALPERS") to be paid to retirees have been HEAVILY reduced (a), and (b) inflation has gone up, so the funds the retirees get are EVEN MORE reduced for buying-power.

This is the sort of absolute DISASTER one gets w. constant, endless, deficit-spending and imperialist warfare, sucker. And don't doubt these poor, stupid elders VOTED FOR IT ALL--that's what thou fails to comprehend. The REAL victims are the coming younger generations who will be literally ENSLAVED to paying-off these debts voted by their stupid elders. GET A CLUE, sucker.


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# 109, follyofwar says:
January 13, 2019 at 3:44 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Stonehands

“First the entitlements will have to end, including social security/pensions.”

Old folks have been FORCED to pay into those so-called entitlements for their entire working lives. Now, when they can no longer work, and no one would hire them anyway, and it’s time to collect their “contributions” back, heartless people like you want to take them away. I guess your retirement program for these old geezers is to just shut up, curl up, and die.

Self-interest is not same as self-INDULGENCE as of satanism....

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Smith's "Invisible Hand" Refers To Natural Harmony Of Rationalism, Rule-Of-Law
(Apollonian, 13 Jan 19)

As I understand, the "invisible hand" of Smith meant that within the free market (Smith was against mercantilism, w. it's tariffs and monopolies, etc.)--remember a market w. genuine RULE-OF-LAW working, in accord w. freedom and sanctity of contract--the participants all working for their self-interest would yet prosper one another "as if by an invisible hand"--such is the proper context and understanding of Smith and "invisible hand."

Note earlier, Bernard Mandeville (1705) wrote his "The Grumbling Hive" which similarly posed a thriving economy by means of participants all working for their simple self-interest, BUT in a rationalist fashion, governed by rule-of-law.

And even earlier, both Thomas Hobbes and John Locke posed the larger political system governed by RATIONAL self-interest, their pt. being we're all necessarily self-interested by nature, the thing now to being is most rationalistic in accord therewith, hence the rationalist social-contract.

What thou art totally over-looking about Crowley is he pushed a gross self-INDULGENCE in DIS-REGARD for reason and rule-of-law, there being no rationalist rule-of-law for Crowley--total SUBJECTIVISM--whereas the aforementioned Englishmen (Smith fm Scotland) presumed the objective reality.
Thy problem is whether Crowley's ignoring reason and rule-of-law is really in harmony and accord w. self-interest; thou are confusing self-interest w. irrational self-indulgence--typical of subjectivists, subjectivism, and satanism.


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# 140, Heros says:
January 13, 2019 at 3:37 pm GMT • 100 Words
@Wally

Tim Kelly and Joe Atwell recently made a podcast about this:

The Free Trade Myth
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/t...11_48_31-08_00

They conclude that Adam Smith was a freemason, and that all this “Magic Hand” of “free trade” is really just a precursor to Crowley’s “Do what thou wilt”.

By means of satanism (extreme subjectivism) Jews rule, inducing cognitive dissonance among stupid, over-populated gentiles....

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World On Jews--On Satanism (Extreme Subjectivism)
(Apollonian, 12 Jan 19)

Indeed: and how do Jews operate?--the Talmud, featuring war against humanity--which is followed, as by Unz, the "editor" (censor) here, whether "religious" or not. Note Talmud features "midrash" (interpretation) method throughout--reality is what rabbis say it is, they working through "midrash" method (also, "Oral Law Tradition").

For Talmud features Satanism, extreme subjectivism, idea reality is creation of mentality/consciousness, the subject being God, the creator--Satanism, by definition.

The wrinkle is Jews follow a COLLECTIVE subjectivism, most sublime "group-think," Jews co-operating, most dedicated, most organized--why they naturally dominate and hence LEAD all the rest of the more isolated, "individualist" satanists among the goyim, even though goyim far out-number Jews.

Thus satanists generally, led by Jews, rule by means of fear, intimidation--a large criminal enterprise at the top of which is the central-bank (US Fed. Reserve), literally legalized counterfeiting--see Mises.org for expo; use the site search-engine for specific terms.

So, anyway, the Jews induce "cognitive dissonance" upon the poor goyim, all of it under-pinned by their extreme subjectivism (satanism). There is an antidote and a solution--it's called TRUTH, which Jews hate. Unfortunately, there may still be a few too many excess gentiles still living.

So, evidently, the gentiles will have to be "de-populated" a bit before a survivable remnant decides to getting serious about things--and to realizing Hitler was absolutely right about many things--why Jews hate him so--he couldn't have been all bad, eh?


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# 115, anon44 says:
January 12, 2019 at 4:04 am GMT

This is your world on “Jews”… Any questions?

Jews don't oppose fascism--they're foremost practioners, ho ho ho ho

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Jews: Actually Foremost Practitioners Of Fascism
(Apollonian, 12 Jan 19)

"Ikeo," buddy: Jews don't hate fascism; they're foremost practioners--ever hrd of bolshevism, communism, socialism, Marxism?--hoho ho ho ho--they're all just forms/variations of fascism.

Remember Fascism is simply, at root, resort to FORCE/violence, without resort to law and legal due process, fascism simply the anti-thesis of LAW. Thus bolshevism is mere "red-fascism," that's all. Mussolini merely featured a variation/version of fascism of fascism in opposition to what he considered worse.

Jews, foremost satanists, criminals, and psychopaths, can't possibly abide freedom as the people hate Jews for the obvious reasons, Jews kicked-out of nearly every land, over and over again, by all races and cultures. Just ck what their Talmud teaches, at Talmudical.BlogSpot.com, RevisionistReview.BlogSpot.com, and Come-and-hear.com.


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# 197, ikeo says:
January 12, 2019 at 9:36 pm GMT

Jews hate fascism, because it is the antidote to anti-Gentilism.

"Cyrano," the Jew, well demonstrates his subjectivist religion....

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Cyrano Well Demonstrates His Basic Subjectivist Religion
(Apollonian, 11 Jan 19)

<blockquote>"The military personnel as well, Russian soldiers were better than the Germans not only because there were more of them, they were better mano a mano than the Germans."</blockquote>

Above quote is so brainlessly and obviously stupid, there's no further comment necessary--but of course, if the moron thinks there are any premises or reasonings that could support such idiocy, by all means pt. them out. Of course, the idiot COULD only give more moronic assertions which themselves would need support, but that's why the idiot is so stupid, not understanding such a simple thing.

What was generally agreed by many, many, if not most, observers and analysts, is/was the Germans were better for their tactical command execution, esp. at the beginning of the conflict (WWII), the Russkies being held back by the political commissars who were required to agree and consent with the actual military commanders.

<blockquote>"...[Y]ou can keep believing the delusions that you’ve created for yourself."</blockquote>

And above quote is the typical, natural, thematic product of his own religion, the reality created by the subject himself (and/or his co-religionists/co-racialists). For what is a "delusion"?--isn't that something that doesn't exist in an objective reality, yet insisted upon by the subject?--and isn't this the avowed religion of our subject, here, "Cyrano"?

Thus we see the basic psychotic nature of this (a) religion and (b) the subjectivists pushing such religion, like our dear little "Cyrano."


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# 189, Cyrano says:Next New Comment
January 11, 2019 at 8:45 pm GMT • 300 Words
@jilles dykstra

If American military equipment was of such a paramount importance in the victory of USSR over Germany – to the point of making USSR contribution insignificant, how come that magic military equipment doesn’t perform the same miracles for US themselves.

How come they are unable to win any war despite being in possession of military equipment with magical powers which allows others to win with ease.

Here is my suggestion, since the American weapons are so superior that they have magical powers – next time US goes to war – send just the weapons by themselves – without the American soldiers.

They American weapons should be able to win those wars all by themselves, the same way they won it for USSR- without any meaningful contribution by the Russians. American weapons are so good that the American personnel seems only to be getting in the way of the racial superiority of those weapons, unable to extract the magic powers that they are infused with – thanks to the fact that they were manufactured by the superior west.

Stalin was wrong. His “Quantity has a quality all its own” was meant to say that USSR had numerical superiority in man and weapons which will prevail in the end. USSR had not only numerical superiority – they had qualitative superiority as well – in certain areas. They made the best tank of WW2 – T34, Germans build Panthers and Tigers which were better than T34 – but that was only after the rude awakening after they saw T-34 in action.

The military personnel as well, Russian soldiers were better than the Germans not only because there were more of them, they were better mano a mano than the Germans. But you go ahead, you can keep believing the delusions that you’ve created for yourself.

Dealing w. couple of (pretty stupid) kikes here, this exchange, ho ho ho ho....

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"FB" Is Pretty Hopeless
(Apollonian, 11 Jan 19)

"FB" obviously played "competitive sports" whence he was administered a few too many hits to the head area, unfortunately for him, ho ho ho. He was probably dropped on his head by his mom.

FB admits, quoting someone else, <blockquote>"...Germany was doomed from day one..."</blockquote>

Well yeah, fool, as Germany was attacked like it was attacked by the conspiratorial Entente powers of WWI (see Docherty and Macgregor, "Hidden History..."), UK and France declaring war in 1939 after Germany reacted to Poles threatened war over Danzig, which Poles vowed to take, UK making an offensive alliance w. Poles in March 1939.

Don't forget Germany was all but totally dis-armed after WWI whence it wasn't even able to defend against Poles illegally appropriating German territory against League of Nations plebiscites. So it's understood Germany was doomed--it was doomed since 1904 when UK and French began to conspire against her.

And FB lies like a rug about Lend-Lease supplies which Soviets rec'd nearly 3 million tons by end of 1942 when it counter-attacked at Stalingrad. Soviets were NOTHING but a gross un-grateful charity case fm its very inception in 1917--it never was anything but an experiment in oppression and social-control by the Western oligarchs. FB needs a new brain.


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# 288, FB says: • Website
January 10, 2019 at 2:24 pm GMT • 300 Words

That ‘article’ I linked to is a wikipedia entry which is notorious for presenting slanted info and mainstream sources that are in line with its political agenda…

A perfect example are those snippets you refer to…the Khruchev quote comes from a 2005 book by his son Sergei…who is a US citizen…

The Stalin quote is from the 1943 Tehran Conference where he said this…

‘Without American production the United Nations [the Allies] could never have won the war.’

This is not the same as saying that without lend lease the Russians could not have defeated Germany…the context of Stalin’s remarks is clearly the overall ALLIED war effort which war also included the war against Japan…

The wikipedia article neglects to provide any of the prevalent views within the Russian military that the lend lease material did not make a difference either way…the demise of the Germans was inevitable…and many serious historians share that view…such as Geoffrey Roberts definitive 2008 book Stalin’s Wars…in which he provides detailed info on war production and concludes that Germany was doomed from day one simply because it’s industry could not match the output of Russia…

So those out of context snippets in wikipedia may be of consolation to sore losers who are trying to rewrite the results of the ‘big game’ after losing…with the old ‘coulda shoulda woulda’ line of kvetching…you obviously have never played competitive sports since no one ever taught you not to resort to this kind of whimpering…

But the facts are stated in the numbers…the Russians received only one third the lend lease that the British received…and most of it came after 1943, when the war was already won…numbers can’t be twisted…

It could in fact be argued much more seriously that the Russians rolling up the Japanese in Manchuria was the key to the US beating the Japs…

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287.Dreadnought says:
January 10, 2019 at 5:21 am GMT
@FB

Read the rest of the article you linked. Krushchev, Stalin, Russian historians, all agree that the Soviet Union could not have defeated Germany without US Lend Lease.

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# 292, FB says: • Website
January 10, 2019 at 5:25 pm GMT

Sure peabody…keep living it up in disneyland…btw you are obviously barely literate…and clearly mentally challenged…


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# 293, apollonian says:
January 10, 2019 at 5:40 pm GMT
@FB

Readers can decide for themselves, sucker, and if there’s anything inaccurate regarding my facts and argumentation, we sure don’t get any indication fm “FB,” do we? Ho ho ho ho


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FB Sure Works Hard, Eh?--Ho Ho Ho
(Apollonian, 11 Jan 19)

<blockquote>"...uneducated and illiterate riff-raff and is not an issue in any serious professional historical discussion"</blockquote>

Ho ho ho ho, so much babbling and desperate effort against "uneducated and illiterate riff-raff," eh?--takes one to know one?--ho ho ho ho ho.

And what does someone like "FB" know about "serious professional historical discussion"?--ho ho ho ho ho ho ho

Does FB "protesteth too much"?--ho ho ho ho ho ho


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# 295, FB says: • WebsiteNext New Comment
January 10, 2019 at 7:25 pm GMT • 300 Words
@apollonian

What ‘facts’ cockroach…?…I’m the one who provided the facts…first of all the lend-lease bs is only an ‘issue’ with uneducated and illiterate riff-raff and is not an issue in any serious professional historical discussion…

Like I said already…the numbers tell the story…

You’ll notice that the bulk of the lend-lease came in 1943 and especially 1944…1941 was practically nothing…and 1942 was only 14 percent of the total…

Also the fact that Britain RECEIVED THREE TIMES AS MUCH

Even France received one third that of Russia and what did France do…or Britain for that matter…?

This may be news to an illiterate cockroach like yourself, but at the time of the Russian victory at Stalingrad…the entire British nation heaved a giant, collective sigh of relief…

‘Britain’s conservative The Daily Telegraph proclaimed that the victory had saved European civilisation. The country celebrated “Red Army Day” on 23 February 1943.

A ceremonial Sword of Stalingrad was forged by King George VI. After being put on public display in Britain, this was presented to Stalin by Winston Churchill at the Tehran Conference later in 1943.’

‘Before its presentation, the sword was exhibited around the United Kingdom like a religious icon, including at Westminster Abbey, which formed a pivotal scene in Evelyn Waugh’s wartime trilogy Sword of Honour.’

You can read about the Sword of Stalingrad here… Britons of that generation that are still alive know very well the historical truth…little pathetic cockroaches like you were never of any significance…nor ever will be…


# 294, Cyrano says:
January 10, 2019 at 6:46 pm GMT • 100 Words
@apollonian

I am a reader and I decided that you are an imbecile. Land-lease schemes are not based on some fake humanism to help a weak side win. It’s the one who lands and leases who is the weak side and helps the ones that can do the jobs that the lend-leaser can’t. Nothing to be proud of really.

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298.Cyrano says:
January 10, 2019 at 10:13 pm GMT • 200 Words
@apollonian

Forget about the Lend-Lease to the Soviets. You know which Lend-Lease program you should really, really be proud of? The Land-Lease program to the Taliban. Was that a brilliant idea or what? It was so brilliant, that you couldn’t have come up with it yourselves, you had to hire that stupid Polak Brzezinski to do it for you.

And he defended it till the day he died – the rotten dog. He said something along the lines: How can you even think between supporting Islam and having opportunity to defeat Communism. And it’s a gift that keeps on giving for your country.

You’ll never get out of there, not with your dignity intact anyway, unless you find someone else to Lend-Lease that war to. Maybe the Chinese? Oh, wait, you already made them too powerful by Lend-Leasing them your manufacturing sector, so that wouldn’t be a good idea. But keep on looking, I am sure you’ll come up with some stunning strategic plan.

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